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ROYAL SCAM: The Law of Moses _becomes_the Messianic Hope (thanks to Plato)

by Terry in

don't confuse the law of moses with paul's interpretation.

paul's theology is neo-platonism at its core.

there is nothing judaic in its reasoning.

America's new dream: Retire at 85

by Elsewhere in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4726300.stm.

retirement age 'should reach 85' .

by paul rincon .

What exactly do you mean by retirement? I am 54 and do hope to 'retire' from the outfit I work for now, but I do not intend to quit working. I would like to start a second career whether it is selling real estate or working part time down at Home Depot. I really do not relish the idea of sitting in my rocking chair on the front porch till I die. DO YOU?

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This is how the WTS can make BLOOD allowable and not loose members

by jwfacts in

i was discussing with my auntie how in the 70's transplants were not allowed, and then in the 80's they were, and asked that since people died by not having a transplant what evidence this had of gods direction.

he answer enlightened me.

she said "transplants were dangerous in the 70's and so god was protecting his people from them.

amused

Did anyone catch the CSI episode last night where Grissam makes the point that the embryo does not have any blood flow until the 18th day after conception? So, if the life is in the blood, when does life start?

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listing of authorities and their date for the fall of Jerusalem

by M.J. in

sorry if this has been posted before.

i came across it and thought it was worth pointing out: http://members.tripod.com/sosoutreach/wts/607.html.

(edited) the annoying popup caused me to cut and paste the table from the page, rather than embed it: the narrative before and after is good too so you might want to check it out the original page.

amused

Wow!!! What a list.

Has anyone tried asking a Witness, why are J.W.'s the only people in the world who believe Jerusalem was destroyed in 607?

If so, how did they respond?

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If you were newly inactive, did you feel pressure to attend the Memorial?

by truthseeker in

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i'd be interested in hearing your experiences, if you were newly inactive and felt pressured to go to the memorial.

did the jw's pressure you to go or did you feel guilty for missing the lord's evening meal (well, we all miss it anyway when we pass it round)

amused

No one has ever pressured my wife and I to attend, it is just assumed that you will. I am not sure how I feel about attending. Not attending is one of the really big taboos and I find myself uncomfortable either way I go. To boot, my brother claims to be of the anointed and we attend the same cong. If we stayed away it would surely draw attention to my wife and I. We've been trying to fly beneath the radar and have been pretty successful so far. I am not even sure when it is this year.

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Comments that made feel pity at last Sundays WT study

by drew sagan in

i believe it was paragraph 17, the one that spoke about the faithful slave and how there are those who wish to be "independent" and that this is wrong.

two comments came, both from elders.

elder 1: so what the paragraph is telling us is that instead of developing an independent spirit we actually want to be developing a spirit of dependece upon god's organization and the spiritual food they provide.

amused

A person ignores it because to give it place in your mind is intolerably painful. The comfortable thing to do is put it out of the mind and not dwell on it.

How long did it take each of you to begin to take seriously your doubts and questions? Than how long did it take before you had the courage to verbalize your doubts, if not to others, even to yourself? Some of us, me included, began this journey years ago and the journey is far from over.

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Comments that made feel pity at last Sundays WT study

by drew sagan in

i believe it was paragraph 17, the one that spoke about the faithful slave and how there are those who wish to be "independent" and that this is wrong.

two comments came, both from elders.

elder 1: so what the paragraph is telling us is that instead of developing an independent spirit we actually want to be developing a spirit of dependece upon god's organization and the spiritual food they provide.

amused

The speaker is a young MS. I am sure the elders were impressed.

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Universal Sovereignty

by joelbear in

okay, that's the big deal right.

why billions of people have to starve to death, why millions of witnesses trudge door to door and live perfectly chaste live.. so here is the history of jehovah's universal sovereignty.

in the beginning there was god.

amused

Well.....when you put it that way.

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Comments that made feel pity at last Sundays WT study

by drew sagan in

i believe it was paragraph 17, the one that spoke about the faithful slave and how there are those who wish to be "independent" and that this is wrong.

two comments came, both from elders.

elder 1: so what the paragraph is telling us is that instead of developing an independent spirit we actually want to be developing a spirit of dependece upon god's organization and the spiritual food they provide.

amused

We got a double whammy at our meeting Sunday. The speaker giving the talk said we should do what the faithful slave tells us no matter how strange it might sound at the time. He then went on to emphasize the importance of obedience to the elders since they represent the faithful slave. And several in the audience were nodding their heads in agreement. Or maybe they were nodding off to sleep. Who knows?

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Collateral damage

by dinah in

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hello folks, this is the first topic i've started, so bear with me please.. i had searched the internet to try and find my way, made a stop here a couple of years ago but just now decided to join.

anyhoo, in all my searching i've realized that many ex-jws aren't dealing well.

that raises a question for me, because after finally reading the gospels i realized jesus would never treat people the way the gb does even in the interest of keeping a congregation clean (which is a joke, btw).. the anger seems to come out of nowhere.

amused

atypical.....Good point about learning to be selfish. I can't speak for anyone else raised as a JW as I was, but even at 54 yo and having been inactive for over three years now, my personal boundaries are all over the place. I have a terrible time knowing when to say no and I feel guilty anytime that I do.

These are lessons one should have learned early on. I am learning them now but find myself often regressing to old habits. One day at a time as they say. It is getting better.