Probably have to call Bethel for that info.
Posts by Kaput
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In which countries are WT banned?
by IT Support ini've now been out a couple of years and so don't have this information.
(a) ... in which countries is the work of jws currently banned?
this would be extremely helpful for a little project i'm working on.
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A waste of life?
by Dune inso i was wondering.
do you guys think that all the time you were witnesses, was it wasted life?
as some of you may know, i'm still going to meetings and all the good stuff.
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Kaput
It would have been better for it to have been presented as simply another religion, selling its wares, rather than THE one bearing the mantel of ultimate truth. Unfortunately, by succumbing to the spiel of its sales force, we bought the bill of goods, and have realized after exiting that there is no refund for the lives we spent in service to this publishing business.
The religion has some good points (emphasizes cleanliness, honesty, compassion, etc.), but the same could be said for any number of religions. However, the extent of commitment demanded by this cult is overly excessive, and mind control is part of the mix. This in turn creates automatons who are willing to destroy family relationships, incur unnecessary health problems and accept, at times, horrific persecution, all to find favor in the eyes of a god who's repeating the sadism of his OT days, and whose convoluted dictates are being carried out by a cabal of power-hungry pedants.
If victimized by this organization, it's not simply a matter of pushing the "undo" button to rectify matters. Besides the de-programming/de-converting one goes through while/after leaving, there is also the matter of contending with the effects of decisions made while living the "UNtruth" e.g. transfusion/organ refusal resulting in loss of life for a loved one, the degradation experienced while doing hard prison time for refusal to serve in the military, a virtually destroyed financial future if one accepted the party line regarding higher education, having one's psyche permanently damaged as a result of pedophilia occurring in a "spiritual paradise", etc. etc. etc.
I'm sure there are THOUSANDS of people out there who would state unequivocally that it was a waste.
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An interesting "paranormal" experience, that was actually "normal"
by AlmostAtheist inso last night i was in the basement.
it was dark, just the light in the crawl space was on.
i happened to see something moving out of the corner of my eye, so i turned.
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Kaput
The punching bag was moving, the light on the bag was moving, and the few spots of light on the wall were not moving.
All frame of reference, Dave. Actually the house was moving while the bag & the light on the bag were stationary.
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does anyone realy know how many 144,000 are realy left?
by lied too ini have been talking to some friends of mine both in and out of the "cult".
and the one thing that no one can come up with is how many of the socalled 144,000 are left, i would estamate there to be atleast 145,000 still kicking today.
if any one out there know's of a number and not the number put in the watchtower, i mean realy do you belive all you read.
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Kaput
When someone starts partaking initially, there is an unwritten rule to the elders that they wait before counting that one as anointed and sending it into the WTS. They must observe them and determine if they are mentally unstable
That'd be kinda like the pot calling the kettle black, wouldn't it?
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An interesting "paranormal" experience, that was actually "normal"
by AlmostAtheist inso last night i was in the basement.
it was dark, just the light in the crawl space was on.
i happened to see something moving out of the corner of my eye, so i turned.
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Kaput
We both saw Care Bears ( remember those? ) dancing in the snow around our carefully made snow people on the front lawn.
You probably had eaten some laced gummy bears.
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Book - "A People for His Name" by Timothy White
by VM44 in.
"a people for his name" by timothy white is an early, but still excellent, book about the history of the jws.. here is a page containing portions from the book.
http://members.fortunecity.com/peopleforhisname/peopleforhisname.htm.
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Kaput
Yes...this book is an oft-overlooked gem, and somewhat hard to come by these days.
Yeah, I'll say! It's on ebay now with a starting bid of $2,000.00!
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LIke my new avatar???
by freedomlover inhere's my new avatar?
i don't know does it say slutty too much!.
love, freedomlover
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Kaput
He must be. He's still in the back seat.
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An interesting "paranormal" experience, that was actually "normal"
by AlmostAtheist inso last night i was in the basement.
it was dark, just the light in the crawl space was on.
i happened to see something moving out of the corner of my eye, so i turned.
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Kaput
Have you ever had a paranormal experience that you're comfortable can't be explained by anything other than something supernatural?
Plenty of 'em...after a while you get tired of worryin' about it.
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Rob Pollock - Sent to Engineering College by WTS?
by Seeker4 inin another topic on the recent education issue of the watchtower society, this question came up.
below is what i wrote on that topic.
i was wondering if anyone else remembered this?.
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Kaput
Just heard that some have or were being sent for EMT training.
Another perk for the GB.
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Old family story of Masons and JW's...
by Bryan inokay, i know this has been beat into the ground, but i just remembered an old family story told to me when i was about 13.
my great uncle, back in the 40s/50s, was a witness.
actually, a witness and elder most all his life until he died in the 80s, i believe.
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Kaput
Curious, does anyone have any Watchtower, Awake! or other literature regarding the JW stance on membership in Masonic Lodges?
Oct. 8, 1974 Awake, pg. 28; 1971 Yearbook, pgs. 114-115; 1970 Yearbook, pg. 203. That's the "newest" light I could find.