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  Just finished reading "The Discoveries of Barbara Anderson"

  by under_believer in

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  what an eye-opener this book was.

  go to this thread to read it yourself.

  what an amazing experience!

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  Kaput

  All of that changed because of my going public.

  Way to go, Barbara!!!
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  Is the WTS still an NGO? 2005 OSCE Conference

  by blondie in

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  supposedly the wts withdrew as an ngo associated with the un in 2001.. .

  http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:evakqe83wbsj:osce.usmission.gov/cordoba/cordoba_ngos.pdf+%22european+union%22+watchtower+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6.

  june 8 and 9, 2005. list of ngos attending osce conference (cordoba).

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  Kaput

  From paragraphs 9, 10 & 11 from the June 1, 1991 WT article "Their Refuge -- A Lie!":

  9 Today, Jehovah's Witnesses warn that a flood of executional armies will soon sweep over Christendom. Moreover, they point to the true place of refuge from that flood. They quote Isaiah 28:16, which says: "This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: 'Here I am laying as a foundation in Zion a stone, a tried stone, the precious corner of a sure foundation. No one exercising faith will get panicky.'" Who is this 'precious cornerstone'? The apostle Peter quoted these words and applied them to Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 2:6) If Christendom had sought peace with Jehovah's King, Jesus Christ, then she would have avoided the coming flash flood. -- Compare Luke 19:42-44.

  10 However, she has not done so. Instead, in her quest for peace and security, she insinuates herself into the favor of the political leaders of the nations -- this despite the Bible's warning that friendship with the world is enmity with God. (James 4:4) Moreover, in 1919 she strongly advocated the League of Nations as man's best hope for peace. Since 1945 she has put her hope in the United Nations. (Compare Revelation 17:3, 11.) How extensive is her involvement with this organization?

  11 A recent book gives an idea when it states: "No less than twenty-four Catholic organizations are represented at the UN. Several of the world's religious leaders have visited the international organization. Most memorable were the visits of His Holiness Pope Paul VI during the General Assembly in 1965 and of Pope John Paul II in 1979. Many religions have special invocations, prayers, hymns and services for the United Nations. The most important examples are those of the Catholic, the Unitarian-Universalist, the Baptist and the Bahai faiths."

  What the WT paragraph conveniently omits when it quotes from this "recent book" is the portion which immediately precedes the quoted excerpt, the portion which states: "Prayer, meditation and spirituality at the UN are fascinating subjects. All major world religions are accredited to the United Nations as non-governmental organizations. For example, no less than twenty-four Catholic organizations are represented at the UN. Several of the world's religious leaders have visited the international organization. Most memorable were the visits of His Holiness Pope Paul VI during the General Assembly in 1965 and of Pope John Paul II in 1979. Many religions have special invocations, prayers, hymns and services for the United Nations. The most important examples are those of the Catholic, the Unitarian-Universalist, the Baptist and the Bahai faiths."

  It appears as if the WBTS, which was in the process of becoming associated with the UN/DPI as an NGO, decided to keep up the ruse for the R&F.

  More legerdemain from the sleezeballs at Bethel.
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  Is the WTS still an NGO? 2005 OSCE Conference

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  supposedly the wts withdrew as an ngo associated with the un in 2001.. .

  http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:evakqe83wbsj:osce.usmission.gov/cordoba/cordoba_ngos.pdf+%22european+union%22+watchtower+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6.

  june 8 and 9, 2005. list of ngos attending osce conference (cordoba).

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  Kaput

  New light . . . We're a part of the world!

  That's right, Gary! Always were, too! We r&f dubs just never knew it!
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  It is finished, or is it just beginning?

  by IP_SEC in

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  well i am no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.

  i had fully intentioned to disassociate myself from the platform today, but i decided that if i wanted a chance to save my marriage that i'd better tell my wife.

  she immediately went to to one of the elders.

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  Kaput

  Happy Anniversary!
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  I've got $500 on Taylor Hicks to win American Idol ( 10 to 1 odds ) : )

  by a Christian in

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  i've got $500.00 on taylor hicks to win american idol.

  at 10 to one odds ( pinnacle sports ) !

  normally i'm not a gambling man.

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  Kaput

  Hey, a Christian!

  Ya didn't bet on Barbaro to win the Preakness, didja?

  BTW, I still think there's something neurologically wrong with Hicks. Guess the handicapped have come a long way.
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  607, 70 years, 1914

  by crazies in

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  2. bible

  sorry for the long post!.

  what the watchtower society says:.

  24 the book of truthful historical dates ***.

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  Kaput

  Credibility is not what I seek from this board.

  So you're hooked on the avatars then?
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  Kissing the Elders Butts

  by Dr Jekyll in

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  ok who's going to own up to sending one of these... http://www.madzay.com/product/product_view.aspx?uid=50af9a87-5606-42a7-8d7f-606f0a8536fe.

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  Kaput

  Notice the ghoulish face on the left side of the picture? Check out that part of the picture that's under the wording "and a place of". See the profile along with an eye looking at you and a pointy ear to the right of the eye? The loooooonng nose and the mischievous grin? Hey, I'm probably "just seeing things", right?
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  Is the WT currently associated with the UN?

  by lost_sheep in

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  i know this topic has been beaten to death, i apologize for flogging the proverbial horse again... but someone mentioned a few days ago (can't find that comment now) that the wt still has ties to the un.

  what evidence do we have for this?

  if one of its corporations is still affiliated with the un, seems like that would be quite the scandal.

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  Kaput

  Seems Mr. Garay has written a book about anti-cultists: http://www.cesnur.org/recens/garay.htm
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  Kissing the Elders Butts

  by Dr Jekyll in

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  2. humour

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  ok who's going to own up to sending one of these... http://www.madzay.com/product/product_view.aspx?uid=50af9a87-5606-42a7-8d7f-606f0a8536fe.

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  Kaput

  "Looks like Madzay found the bat cave, Robin!"
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  Is the WT currently associated with the UN?

  by lost_sheep in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know this topic has been beaten to death, i apologize for flogging the proverbial horse again... but someone mentioned a few days ago (can't find that comment now) that the wt still has ties to the un.

  what evidence do we have for this?

  if one of its corporations is still affiliated with the un, seems like that would be quite the scandal.

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  Kaput

  
  Link directly to UN for the Paul Hoeffel letter of explanation regarding the WBTS association as an NGO with UN/DPI:

  http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf

  Notice this excerpt from the first paragraph of the Hoeffel letter:

  By accepting association with DPI, the organization agreed to meet criteria for association, including support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities. (red highlighting mine)

  Notice this excerpt from the October 1, 1985 Watchtower magazine, page 11, paragraph 14:

  When the nations not only rejected God's Kingdom but also established their own organization to bring peace, that was rebellion. When religious leaders of Christendom identified that organization with God's Kingdom and the Gospel, proclaiming it to be "the only available instrument" for bringing peace, that was idolatry. They were putting it in the position of God's Kingdom, "in a holy place." Certainly, it was "standing where it ought not." (Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14) And religious leaders continue to support the League's successor, the United Nations, rather than point men to God's established Kingdom. (red highlighting mine)

  And from page 6 of the same magazine: 'The whole world lies in the power of the wicked one.' This includes the United Nations

  Evidently the WBTS wanted it both ways...point men to God's established Kingdom while at the same time supporting "the blasphemous counterfeit of God's Messianic Kingdom" (Revelation -- Its Grand Climax At Hand! book, page 248, paragraph 9) under the control of Satan. Wonder how many blessings the WBTS got for playing both sides for 10 years.