i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
Christian,
Some of the points in the page that I meant ARE about science. Others aren't. I just haven't had the time to sort it out, because I am at work right now... so I admit that I just went the easy way by giving a generic list rather than making up one myself.
Anyway, even if we don't agree, I praise your interest in defendind your points of view.
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
Well... about my doubts about the bible... I may start with those at http://www.bidstrup.com/bible2.htm
if you are courting, be determined to remain chaste, even when talking on the phone.
an engaged christian woman named leticia says: "my fiance and i have read together bible-based articles on staying chaste.
we appreciate the way they have helped us maintain a clean conscience.
Yeah... but please spare the "dirty passages" of the bible. The song of Solomon is a no-no.
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does anyone know how to get rid of it?
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I don't know how to get rid of it... but it's really disorienting... I sometimes wake up thinking it's morning, only to find out I was sleeping in the afternoon.
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
Just my two cents, Christian:
Many people here have lost faith in the bible after deep research. Others have researched and believe the bible even more. To each, his own.
I believe most people here don't take it on a personal basis. They may disagree concerning ideas, but everyone is welcome and treated with respect.
I, for one, wish I could reconcile bible with science... but I can't. If I could, I'd gladly take the chance to do so. But wishful thinking will get me nowhere.
So, when people ask for reasons to believe in the bible, they may be doing so with a genuine heart. But it will take solid reasons to make them believe. Otherwise, nothing done.
As Carl Sagan once said: "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".
So, don't be sad! This was a very good thread!
I don't see your point!
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i'm new here, i married a jw and i have just started attending the meetings, and it confuses me alot.. but back to my question, my grandmother once told me that jw's in the 50's proclaimed the end of the world and sold all their personal belongings and went up on a mountian and waited for god, has anyone else heard of this?
Well, I wonder... If Jesus were to come back and get me to Heaven, why should I go to the trouble of selling my belongings? I wouldn't need any money up there, and those left on Earth would not have any use for them...
So the witnesses are a little smarter... as Blondie said: there's still "some little time"... so little that it never ends
a few days ago there was a thread in which we were discussing the blood issue and jehovah's witnesses.
someone brought up pets and blood.
i was curious at that point if there was blood in our dogs food and were my wife to find out, i wondered how she would respond.. i did a little re-search on pet food and it's ingredience and here is a little what i found.. .........the protein used in pet food comes from a variety of sources.
True Christians would do well to ask themselves what God's viewpoint might be of their domestic animals engaging in sexual relations (coitus) without the benefit of the marriage arrangement. Might this stumble others in the Christian Congregation?
so i was just wonderin' if anyone has ever heard of someone getting banned from the kingdom hall.
my dad who was a very looked up to elder before my parents divorce and allways a very devout jw recently got banned from the kh, this is the 1st time hearing of someone getting banned, see this elder was talkin to his new wife a little too much and he thought they were gettin a little too close and he told this dude to back off and he didnt so this elder had a talk one night and my dad stood up in the middle of the hall right as this dude got on stage and announced that he better stay away from his wife, he was asked to leave and he refused so they called the cops on him and the cops came right in and escorted him out.
so anywho they wont let him come back, they didnt df him or reprove him or anything just banned his ass-way to go dad, probably the best thing that ever happened to him, too bad he allready wasted 2/3 of is life in that sh*t. so has anyone else ever heard of getting banned?-april
They called the police? Aren't witnesses supposed to take care of their business among themselves?
They're casting shame upon Jehoover's Name.
Anyway, they must have noticed that your father was "too smart for his own good". I supposed that the REAL reason behind that is that he was making uncomfortable questions about the "faithful and discreet slave".
hello my brothers and sisters.
may god be with you this fine and lovely day.
i wanted to share something close to my heart this day and i've chosen genesis 4:14. this text shows the danger of being cast off by god if you disobey him and really get him mad.
Gumby, if most "christians" are afraid to argue with JWs, much less with ex-JWs. They run for hide!
