You can't see???
If they were a JW couple and turned "apostate" (as the General Bullshitters call them, then there is a couple of people out there, possible long time Bethelites, who have valuable info...
on the front of the "when someone you love dies" brochure, there is a picture of a young couple walking down the beach.. well, the new brochure is out, and the watchtower has made a pretty good attempt at imitating the old picture, but it's definite that the young couple has been replaced.. the picture is close, but the background is a different scene, close, but different.. and the man and woman walking along are new!.
so... what happened watchtower?
did these people quit the watchtower, and you had to replace them?
You can't see???
If they were a JW couple and turned "apostate" (as the General Bullshitters call them, then there is a couple of people out there, possible long time Bethelites, who have valuable info...
on the front of the "when someone you love dies" brochure, there is a picture of a young couple walking down the beach.. well, the new brochure is out, and the watchtower has made a pretty good attempt at imitating the old picture, but it's definite that the young couple has been replaced.. the picture is close, but the background is a different scene, close, but different.. and the man and woman walking along are new!.
so... what happened watchtower?
did these people quit the watchtower, and you had to replace them?
I am bringing this to the top of the board. I would like to find out who these people are. For them to have been used for the cover photograph of this brochure means that the had "many years of faithful service" to the BORG, most likely at a Branch office somewhere, if not NY itself, and hence could prove very useful!
Start asking questions people!!!
on the front of the "when someone you love dies" brochure, there is a picture of a young couple walking down the beach.. well, the new brochure is out, and the watchtower has made a pretty good attempt at imitating the old picture, but it's definite that the young couple has been replaced.. the picture is close, but the background is a different scene, close, but different.. and the man and woman walking along are new!.
so... what happened watchtower?
did these people quit the watchtower, and you had to replace them?
On the front of the "When Someone You Love Dies" brochure, there is a picture of a young couple walking down the beach.
Well, the new brochure is out, and the Watchtower has made a pretty good attempt at imitating the old picture, BUT it's definite that the young couple has been REPLACED.
The picture is close, but the background is a different scene, close, but different.
And the man and woman walking along are new!
So... what happened Watchtower? Did these people quit the Watchtower, and you had to replace them? Can't go about placing literature with APOSTATES on the cover, ...eh?
barbara anderson's attention was called to the thread about the differences in policy of great britain and the us regarding child abuse; as you know she has championed a change in that policy.
another post caught her eye, and she expressed the desire to share some thoughts with you.
i'm delighted to share her first post, which i know you will find riveting.
I was at the WT study that day for the nethinem article. The conductor, an elder, put his thumbs where suspenders would be and put his shoulders back. He smiled and went on about how "glorious" they (elders) all would be.
He's dead now. Cancer.
Not so glorious.
has anyone on here ever come across the tiniest shred of evidence supporting this date for the fall of jerusalem.
i understand rolf furuli is about to but something out on this subject (see elihubooks.com), however even a table of contents has been a long time in coming from this site.
if no evidence exists what can he possibly be writing about?
GO ALAN!
has anyone on here ever come across the tiniest shred of evidence supporting this date for the fall of jerusalem.
i understand rolf furuli is about to but something out on this subject (see elihubooks.com), however even a table of contents has been a long time in coming from this site.
if no evidence exists what can he possibly be writing about?
All this talk and no action ...
I want to see the proponents of the 607 date to post their research ... I want to see it.
BUT REMEMBER... only the so-called "Biblical" evidence...NO SECULAR STUFF as you have poisoned the well of secular chronology.
If you insist on the choice of either the Bible OR secular, then stick to the Bible.
someone reported in another thread that ray franz has grown concerned that his books have not helped those who have read them because it left them with nowhere to go.
i'm reminded of a phrase that i heard repeatedly during my 30 years as a watchtower toady.
"if this isn't the truth, then there is no truth".
Well, I just received a fine letter from Ray and Cynthia.
Ray doesn't seem to be to broken up by "concern" over whether or not he's created as new disillusioned class...:)
He's just doing...
And what's more, I here wish him and Cynthia the same measure of health, happines and longevity that I wished them in my correspondence.
I also express my gratitude.
Carry on!
has anyone on here ever come across the tiniest shred of evidence supporting this date for the fall of jerusalem.
i understand rolf furuli is about to but something out on this subject (see elihubooks.com), however even a table of contents has been a long time in coming from this site.
if no evidence exists what can he possibly be writing about?
This is to Mr "Scholar"...
You, sir, are full of hot air!
There is absolutely NO evidence in the Bible or secular chronology for the 607 date. The fact that you post this under the name "Scholar" is utter gainsay.
If you really want to be a scholar, then read the book "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" by Carl Olof Johnason. ONce you have read this book, then come back and post again with this name "scholar"...
Till then, bunky, you should use the name "fool".
the approach of ex-jehovah's witnesses towards those still witnesses has been debated since the problem first occurred.
personally i joined the ranks of ex-witnesses in 1988 and found myself more or less thrown into the fray appearing in media like newspapers, radio and tv.
one of the first things i noticed was the interest bestowed upon me from competing churches, particularly from the pentecostalism camp.
GO NORM! I am all for the "blunt" approach. The WTBTS, years ago, was very blunt, "You're all gonna die!" blunt... That's why I have come to believe that the WTBTS should discontinue it's present move towards being more politically correct, and return to the past "bluntness".
You can't even imagine the reaction of a non-JW when they receive the pure, undiluted and unvarnished Watchtower message, with all the fat cut away.
Till I saw it the first time, I wouldn't have believed it. They jump up "that high" (gesture with hand) and all'z I can say is that I hope I never come face to face with a person at the door who has faced the "unvarnished" message.
But then... the doors where you can avoid this are getting fewer and fewer. HaHaHa LOL
q: what takes place in the local congregations when you post hundreds of copies of this (below)in many locations around the city?.
a: see bottom of page for answer.... .
if i had known, before i joined,.
Some novel ideas here. Let's see what the future holds!