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IS THE WATCHTOWER A FALSE PROPHET?

by You Know in

when jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.

it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.

one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.

biblexaminer

JT has it right here

YK is full of cow filth.

The deceptive comparison (taken right from the WTS) between the Watchtower's false prophecies, -and the supposed Apostles private ponderings, is a way for a discerning mind to see the deception in the false YK's Satan-like words.

The WTS, and also their jw.com minion (YK), use a bait and switch technique as did Satan when he attempted to decieve Jesus. YK uses three coconuts. He puts his false idea under one coconut, and then moves the three cocnuts around and opens another.

The fact that YK repeats the WTS party line shows that he is just a brainless dub. To DUB a tape, one records over what was there originally. That is what YK is, a DUB. His mind has been DUBBED over with WTS rhetoric garbage.

*** Rbi8 Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ***
20 “‘However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 And in case you should say in your heart: “How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?” 22 when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it. You must not get frightened at him.’

This is an unbending criteria, and easily identifies the Watchtower Fable and Crap Society as a FALSE PROPHET.

Lists of their statements are far too plentiful and available to deny and YK knows this. Yet he/she/it still defends them.

So what does that make YK? I will let the working minds who read supply their own answer.

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Raymond Franz and UN (part 2)

by Henriksen in

on december 20 hawk wrote:.

re: raymond franz and un dec 20, 2001 20:41 .

quote:.

biblexaminer

Listen. If you re-examine the posts you are "quoting" from, you will see that I posted this...he is keeping tabs on the whole affair but didn't seem overly intested.

I called Ray up to check on some books, and while I had him on the phone, I touched on the UN-WTS issue. He had nothing to say. He didn't seem interested, and that's well and good. I did not ask for a "public statement" or a 'Ray press release'. I asked as one friend to another -in passing.

Ray has had no connection to the UN thing. What he has had a connection to, he has generously written about.

And if you check the posts, as I suggested above, I said basically there what I say again here.

Leave Ray out of it.

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The UN Affiliation: Likely Denouement?

by JosephAlward in

ive found the un affiliation threads very interesting, but ive also expressed the view that this issue will have virtually no effect on jw membership.

i have at least two reasons for believing this.. first, after reading w. j. schnells 1957 book, thirty years a watchtower slave, in which the author describes how the watchtower used negative publicity to increase membership, im now of the opinion that continued commentary on this matter may only serve to foster an even greater conviction on the part of rank and file jws that they are being persecuted, and they will increase their efforts to recruit members; this will offset what i think will be a miniscule number of defections by those who will feel betrayed because of the un affiliation.

the reason why i think there will be few defections is described below.. second, i believe that the watchtower can easily defend itself.

biblexaminer

You're full of garbage Alward. GO study your watchtower magazine and bow down in the direction of the kingdumbhall.

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Interfaith in NYC?? Who knows details?

by OhHappyDay in

well, i read something about, but i have no link nor further details.

biblexaminer

Alward sucks at the tits of the watchtower. He defends her no matter what, and then tries to act as if he's not really a borg.

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New York Times & UN/WTS

by biblexaminer in

new york times december 15, 2001 .

in a startling revelation, the watchtower bible and tract society of brooklyn ny, parent organization to the jehovah's witness religion, was exposed for a stark contradiction in their religious practices.. it was revealed this week by the guardian (a leading uk newspaper) that the governing body of the watchtower religion had secretly erected a christmas tree in celebration of the festive season.

when the facts were made public this week, the watchtower quickly, and quietly, removed the tree to another location.. paul gilles, spokesman for the watchtower in great briton, wrote a letter to the guardian, in which he stated that the "tree was in no way secret" and that it was "necessary to gain access to the un library".

biblexaminer

Listen, if you can't tell right off what you were reading, then you don't have a hope of dealing with "Truth" and "the facts" cause' you wouldn't know it if you read it.

BTW, when Jesus comes, tell him to stick with "the facts" and quit with all the illustration junk.

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Cannot understand without the organisation

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

just in case any lurkers here may be in doubt about the criticisms made of the witnesses' idolizing of an organisation, here is a selection of their claims, in their own words:.

"he [god] does not impart his holy spirit and an understanding and appreciation of his word apart from his visible organisation.

" (the watchtower, july 1, 1965, page 391).

biblexaminer

What this site should have (Simon take note) is a way of labeling people. Sure!

After elevendymillion posts, we get the titles that show what level poster we are. Cool. But let's go one step further.

How about a kind of "survival" board, where, when someone is a moron, (YK) then we can all vote and his title becomes "Baffoon" (stole this from YK's post).

Then, as new persons tune in to the board, they wouldn't have to read a bunch of YK's worthless posts to find out that he's a moron.

They can just look at his title.

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Cannot understand without the organisation

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

just in case any lurkers here may be in doubt about the criticisms made of the witnesses' idolizing of an organisation, here is a selection of their claims, in their own words:.

"he [god] does not impart his holy spirit and an understanding and appreciation of his word apart from his visible organisation.

" (the watchtower, july 1, 1965, page 391).

biblexaminer

YK is the kind of nurdfodder that you just goota like ...to make fun of...

His posts are always infantile, and reveal a juvenile disposition. His mentality is that of a reckless child, seeking to put down others in the belief that he will be a BIGGER man.

He was probably a bully in the schoolyard, and not that long ago I might add.

His posts make no sense. He says lots, but with no foundation for it. He just rants.

I say to YK, why bother even trying to formulate a post that makes any sense. Why not just stick to posts like my daddy is bigger than your daddy, or perhaps nah-nah, nahnah-nah

Loser.

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Cannot understand without the organisation

by ozziepost in

jw
friends

just in case any lurkers here may be in doubt about the criticisms made of the witnesses' idolizing of an organisation, here is a selection of their claims, in their own words:.

"he [god] does not impart his holy spirit and an understanding and appreciation of his word apart from his visible organisation.

" (the watchtower, july 1, 1965, page 391).

biblexaminer

The moron "youknow" alias "court jester" alias "fool" said...

"Even in your using the Watchtower's quotes against them is a method that you learned from Ray Franz"

Not exactly correct. But if you replace the name "Ray Franz" with the name JESUS CHRIST, then you are bang on youdon'tknow...

Het yk, get a life. Your type is know. Sissy ass juvies who couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

You're probably just angry at the world cause' the elders won't let you handle the mics.

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Interfaith in NYC?? Who knows details?

by OhHappyDay in

well, i read something about, but i have no link nor further details.

biblexaminer

I was going to call Steven F. tomorrow morning. I was going to ask, politely, if it would be at all possible to get a copy of the WTS papers etc.

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Raymond Franz and UN

by kpax in

can anyone ask raymond franz what he knows about the un involvement?.

.

kpax

biblexaminer

All this talk about what Ray knows, or doesn't...

Ray is just a guy, like you and me, (sorry girls) and he needs to eat breath and sleep. A little enjoyment thrown in would be good.

Ray has written lots, as some have correctly pointed out. He is interested in getting what he's written into as many hands as possible.

He was not involved in any "UN thing", so what's to write? Any one of us can write UNUNUNUNUNUN. Who's listening?

For Ray to "write something" wouldn't matter any more than if you or I wrote something. He's written lots about what he HAD something to do with and needs time for other things now.

But, if some of you folks need for Ray to write something, then in my next letter to Ray, (and he always responds even though I told him there was no need) I will tell him to write a sentence or two about the UN thing. I might even write it for him and he can just copy it when he writes back. Then I will post it.

Sarcastic? Yes, but for those who insist that his writing of something will make the difference, that's only fitting.

Ray does not have 50 Reuters reporters on his doorstep just panting at the thought that he will emerge from his lair to impress the world with his wisdom!

Ray is, as I said earlier on, a guy... like the rest of us. And to my knowledge, the only thing he held back when he wrote CofC, was information about Chitty and Greenlees. And in ISOCF he mentioned their disgusting habits. So what's left?

Hey, we all want the tower to crumble. But ray ain't gonna bring it down. He chipped at the rock and it's cracking. He's led the way. Now it's up to the rest of us.

So, for the "Ray's gotta say something" crowd, GET OVER IT!