What was altered on the UN site. Since the WTBTS is still on this page, where was the WTBTS removed from?
And how long can we count on the WTBTS still being on htis page?
http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/ngodir/ngodirsubj/sub0d9a2.htm .
http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?nocache=1&dato=20011104&kategori=news&lopenr=111040001&ref=ar
What was altered on the UN site. Since the WTBTS is still on this page, where was the WTBTS removed from?
And how long can we count on the WTBTS still being on htis page?
sorry for duplicating this post.
i made a mistake and posted on the wrong forum.. my question is, can we rely on the observer to give us accurate information on the jws.
i ask this question because i have read many disturbing things about the society in its early beginnings.
Pureheart. You are a newbie??
You are in for a little shock. That's all I need to say.
hello all.. i was hoping a few of you would do me a favour.
a local news editor has asked me a question.
he has asked why is this un/wts story important to the local community?.
A big one.
Because many of us want to leave it, but can't. It's destroying our life, but we can't. They won't let us leave. Unless we are prepared to sacrifice everything that means something to us. Unless we are willing to leave behind all our family who will shun us for the rest of our lives. Unless we are willing to be publicly slandered and be disposed of by everyone we grew up with, we can't.
But we want to. We want OUT. And exposing the Watchtower will cause her to fall, and then we will have our out.
And all the future people who would have been indoctrinated by this cult, they too will be free. Free to think, free to talk, free to live.
FREE!
it would be hard for the wtbts to deny their open connections to osce and other political forums.. http://www.jw-georgia.org/eng/rights/00octoscehrwf.htm.
this link is from an official jw website, and i believe those interested in such connections should take a long and hard look at the russiand and other jw sites.
it seems they are more "open" as to admit, and not least - use - their un connections as a tool of the trade.. i have reasons to believe the wtbts will try to use as defence that "human right issues are non-political" - and as such say the un connection is really a non-issue.
Hey OLD hoppo. If it's all OKAK with you, all this suff.. then why doesn't the Watchtower publicise it in the Watchtower or Awake?
Why don't you call your friends in the Tower and have 'em write it on up, sure... and l;et the whole 6m congregation have a thorough knowledge of "the truth"....
If it's good for them, then all should know. Right?
many of you have said that the wts is babylon the great and feel that the prophecy in revelation will be fulfilled on the wts.
the book of revelation says that this babylon the great will go down into destruction because the wild beast will turn on her.
it also said that god will put that thought into the wild beast to carry out this action.. that is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because jehovah god, who judged her, is strong.. if the wts is the babylon the great of the book of revelation then this will be its demise.
I believe that the governments will stick it to religion. Starting with the Church.
It may look like they would like to get rid of Muslims first, but did you ever consider this.
The FBI will uncover that the anthrax attacks in the US are not the work of Muslims, but rather the work of Christian Fundamentalists whose objective it is to USE the US military might to stamp out their oppsition?
If the US government finds this to be the case, what attitude will it be left with?
And once they do stmap out Christian fundys, where does it stop?
And lest we forget, Muslims are a piece of work. They need to be disposed of, right?
ANd so a brave new world is on the horizon, one free of religious interference with daily life, on where true freedom can reign, uninhibited by clerics who want to use the populace to feed thier own egos, and pocketbooks.
as a jw, i can really see now that we are unchristian.
it seems that so much of what we now are is, well... unethical.
and through it all, it seems that we are not unliked as before.. at least since, we are no longer unlinked.. we could say that we are now undone, since there will be no more unworkable situations ahead for us.. ah, but as the rank and file find out that the cronies in brooklyn are unrepentant, they may soon see the thought behind the quote below.. *** w70 10/1 582 .
As a JW, I can really see now that we are UNchristian. It seems that so much of what we now are is, well... UNethical.
And through it all, it seems that we are not UNliked as before.
At least since, we are no longer UNlinked.
We could say that we are now UNdone, since there will be no more UNworkable situations ahead for us.
Ah, but as the rank and file find out that the cronies in Brooklyn are UNrepentant, they may soon see the thought behind the quote below.
*** w70 10/1 582
Being disillusioned, she said: “The church leaders should speak the truth and follow it. False teaching and hiding of the truth are what impelled me to study the Bible for myself.” Have you studied the Bible for yourself to see if your church leaders teach what it contains?
i read justhumans response on one of the threads, and he mentioned that jeruselum was not destroyed in 607 bce.
i would like to have more information on this.. pureheart
The proof is concrete. Read "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" by Carl Olof Johnason, available at www.commentarypress.com
Everything you need is in this complete discussion book.
major news folks.. i have obtained the dpi directory for 1999/2000, published by the un's dpi in 1999. i have copied 19 relevant pages of this document.
lloyd barry's name and ciro's name are both mentioned.
also it gives the criteria etc.
The key is to get this stuff into newspapers. From there, it goes everywhere.
i tried to post this on the "major un/wts news - we have a un letter".
thread, but it's not coming up for me.
the page and the listing of the posts are all there, but the boxes are empty.
I'm in. BIG time.
I have been in contact with the Chris Thompson, a reporter with the Star here. He's interested, and I have offered to do an interview with him, and right SMACK dab in the Kingdom Hall. We will go when the rest of the dubs are out.
Of course he will have to keep my name out of it so that I don't end up in a messy divorce like so many of my friends lately. But with all the contacts out there, it should'nt be a problem.
Tomorrow, I might call Crooklyn Lows.
here's a good one.. .
hypocrite organization "disassociates" from the un.
they will come to your door soon, and they will bear in hand a magazine that warns you about "'religious hypocrisy".
Thanks for the good critique. I know that all those who have offered their thoughts are only doing it for the sake of the greatest impact.
When I sit with the reporter, (and for those who call me a hypocrite,YES I will sit with him,) I will use whatever there is at my disposal, including this website, to get the best effect.
And for "lefty"... I will leave the instant it's right that I can do so. I want out. I am not a hypocrite, but a jailbird.
Now you on the other hand, being a Watchtower lover, and being here also, are a different matter...