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  COC in public libraries

  by diamondiiz in

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  2. bible

  i haven't researched this but do library have copies of this book?

  did you ever look for coc or any other book in a local library when you were a believer or when you began to have doubts?

  how hard is it to find this book in a public library?.

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  Out of 53 libraries in south/central area: COC is listed, but no copies. hmmmm....
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  COC in public libraries

  by diamondiiz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't researched this but do library have copies of this book?

  did you ever look for coc or any other book in a local library when you were a believer or when you began to have doubts?

  how hard is it to find this book in a public library?.

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  juni

  That's a good question. I'm going to check that out. We have what they call LinkCat. Your sources for getting materials come from different libraries in south/central Wisconsin. I'm curious if there are copies of COC considering all of the libraries involved.
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  Is anyone else getting ready for Christmas?

  by juni in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was in the mood today... got the tree cheap (came w/lights), decorations and ribbon for half price and made the bow myself to save money.

  i was going to put it aside until after thanksgiving, but couldn't resist completing the project.

  i just have to get some fiber fill for "snow" at the base.

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  Sorry, I'm just getting back to this thread tonight.

  It has got to be fantastic to live in NYC at this time of year, Band on the Run! I remember as a kid going to downtown Milwaukee and enjoying the retail window decorations along Wisconsin Avenue.

  Hi Warlock/Judge Dread. Yeah, I've been off the site for a long time. I come here every so often now. So many "oldsters" are not here anymore. If I'm not working my part time job or volunteering, I'm reading, talking w/friends and taking care of day to day stuff.
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  Do you have a favorite holiday CD?

  by juni in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i made my weekly trip to the library today to pick up "on hold" books and a movie and 3 cds -.

  wynonna - a classic christmas (2006).

  manneheim steamroller - christmas song (2007).

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  Thanks for sharing your favorites.

  I also love Ave Maria and Little Drummer Boy. Santa Baby is cute. The Nutcracker is wonderful to listen to.

  I've tried to get two Bing Crosby CDs from the library - one was lost so no longer in circulation; the other one was supposed to be Bing Crosby was replaced by a different CD. Fortunately it was a CD that I had for many years, but lost during one of my moves. That was a nice surprise.
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  Do you have a favorite holiday CD?

  by juni in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  i made my weekly trip to the library today to pick up "on hold" books and a movie and 3 cds -.

  wynonna - a classic christmas (2006).

  manneheim steamroller - christmas song (2007).

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  juni

  I made my weekly trip to the library today to pick up "on hold" books and a movie and 3 CDs -

  Wynonna - A Classic Christmas (2006)

  Manneheim Steamroller - Christmas Song (2007)

  Dave Koz and Friends, A Smooth Jazz Christmas (2001)

  What holiday CDs do you like listening to?

  Juni
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  "Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12

  by yourmomma in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  have anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?

  its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .

  if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?

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  Here's another statement from a previous Watchtower in 2007 which is also encouraging women to stay with abusive husbands:

  "....Similarly, Peter indicated that some unbelieving husbands-even those who are abusive-will become Christians after observing the submissive conduct of their wives. We have seen evidence of this happening today."-----w07 2/15 p. 20 par. 12 Wives-Deeply Respect Your Husbands

  I left the JW organization in 1991 so I've been out of touch w/what they have been teaching. It's disturbing and nauseating to read that they are still perpetuating abusive behavior for the sake of "winning over" a mate into the religion. I know for a fact from what we were taught when I became a JW in 1970, and what I had seen first hand - women were to stay in the marriage even though there was physical and/or mental abuse going on in the marriage. These sisters would come to the meetings in tears and some with bruises. Often times they were afraid to go home not knowing what they were going to face. One husband sabotaged his wife's car while she was inside the Hall for the meetings. He was a known abuser and this was one way he would instill fear - she had to come home sometime! Another lived with a husband who intimidated her with guns. She would get in her service time for the month very carefully so that he was unaware of what she was doing. Another sister who had an extremely tolerant nature put up with many years of silent treatments that would last for a week at a time, a husband who was "mad" at her a lot for no apparent reason (another control tactic and abusive) which left her confused and unhappy. She was shown very little compassion when sick and other bizarre behaviors wore her down. She had told me that she wanted to leave so many times, but knew it was her place to stay and keep up the Christian example as one day he may "come in the truth". I could keep going on here with other situations, but it's upsetting recalling these memories. Again, they were ALL counseled to stay with the marriage mate for the sake of the "truth" in order to win over that mate and thereby be a faithful witness for Jehovah. Thinking back.... this is just sick.

  Anyone who has researched or personally knows from therapy how an abuser operates is aware that an abuser DOES NOT change unless he/she gets professional help. It's also a long therapy procedure as there are deep seated issues (often from childhood) and extreme low self esteem issues with that abuser that need to be addressed and helped with. Just as with diabetes, heart, COPD, or any other medical issue - there needs to be a medical plan of action - not a bible study.

  Juni
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  What Are You Reading?

  by zoiks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, here's my current list:.

  i just finished the greatest show on earth by richard dawkins, and am almost finished crisis of conscience by...some guy.. currently in hand, i have:.

  the power of myth, joseph campbell and bill moyers.

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  Strangers, Dean Koontz

  Just After Sunset, Stephen King

  Cherry Bomb, J.A. Kunrath

  books on learning Excel

  I have others on order from the library. Reading is a big part of my life.

  Juni
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  Julian's marching band become Michigan grand champions for 2011

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  julian started his freshman year at jenison high school this year.

  he has played trumpet in their highly awarded band programs since 6th grade.

  he was going to go home to live with his mother, when he changed his mind and begged to stay and participate in their marching band.. jenison marching band is widely recognized and has won many awards over the years.

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  Excellent job! Congratulations Julian!

  FlyingHighNow - I remember years ago when Julian was just a little guy and we got money together for his bicycle.... where does time go????

  Juni
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  Is anyone else getting ready for Christmas?

  by juni in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was in the mood today... got the tree cheap (came w/lights), decorations and ribbon for half price and made the bow myself to save money.

  i was going to put it aside until after thanksgiving, but couldn't resist completing the project.

  i just have to get some fiber fill for "snow" at the base.

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  Other decorating ideas if you're on a tight budget:

  Take down pictures from the wall, wrap like a gift w/ribbon and bow and hang back up.

  Use fiber fill batting as a tree skirt. You can place different size boxes underneath the fiber fill to give the effect of hills. Sprinkle w/fake snow glitter. Have kids make different buildings/houses from decorated smaller boxes. Everyone can use their creative skills for other things to add to the scene. Nice family project.
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  Is anyone else getting ready for Christmas?

  by juni in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was in the mood today... got the tree cheap (came w/lights), decorations and ribbon for half price and made the bow myself to save money.

  i was going to put it aside until after thanksgiving, but couldn't resist completing the project.

  i just have to get some fiber fill for "snow" at the base.

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  I like the different ideas for decorations and the tree stand. That's what is fun w/the holiday. Families make their own memories by celebrating in unique ways. And our homes glow with creativity!

  I want to say also that I have been on both sides with the holidays. It can be a very happy time, but also it can be a very sad, lonely time.

  Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and ideas.

  Juni