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  Emotional Blackmail and JWs

  by Lady Lee in

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  emotional blackmail is a form of controlling one person to gets ones needs met.

  a blackmailer may use direct or indirect threats against us to get what they want regardless of our opinions or feelings.

  the one great threat is: if you dont behave the way i want you to, i will make your life miserable.

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  bad_associashun

  another enjoyable exerp from the collections of lady lee- good stuff, LOVED IT!!

  badass/rachel
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  Why do they go back?

  by zenpunk in

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  2. friends

  i always hear at least two stories a year about someone i know who's left the "truth" goes back despite the trauma surrounding their departure.

  this morning i heard yet another story.

  a few years ago and elder's wife in my former uk congregation abruptly left the organization, surprising everyone and getting a big df in the process.

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  bad_associashun

  They go back for the same reasons persons will return to an abusive partner or the same types of relationships- if you hang a bag of poop around your neck long enough, eventually you'll get used to it- and may even like it- in any case, you WILL miss it when it's gone.
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  Disfellowshipment

  by larc in

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  2. friends

  on the subject of disfellowshipping, there is something i don't understand.

  many here have told their stories as to what happened to them.

  i have to ask this question.

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  bad_associashun

  Since I was df'd for not breaking contact with a df'd person, the whole idea behind the 'Jehovah-disciplines-those-he-loves' principle was too much for me to believe in & stand up for.

  Yes, I knew it was coming. "So, because YOU (jud committee) point your righteous finger to say this person is no longer worthy of God's mercy & loving-kindness, and YOU judge that he has sinned beyond Christ's sacrifice ... and you want to show your version of Jehovah's discipline and 'bring him to his senses', break up his family (wife, 4 kids)--- you are demanding that I ignore him at all times, let him no know I no longer care for him or consider him a worthwhile human being, let him starve spiritually & emotionally after he has given this organization 22 yrs of his life??"

  What love they show! Such mercy? Let's review the list of those Jesus shunned or df'd?

  Sincerely believing & practicing something as if it were right will not make it right even if it really is wrong.

  enjoyed your post gopher :]

  I hear ya' signgirl- dipping should not be 'pushed' as it is- especially on the young. They act as if the big 'A' came tomorrow, salvation would depend on if you got dunked or not- yet they constantly preach 'safeguard your heart- Jah can read the heart' ... only those inside the ark were saved in Noah's day, being 'baptized' as it were thru the flood... the Isr were 'baptized' thru the Red Sea. If Jah can read the heart, what's the rush? ok, I'm ranting now- sorry... :-]
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  Does being called an 'apostate' upset you?

  by wholewheat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do all of you ex-jehovah's witnesses get upset when you are called an apostate?

  you all call each other apostates, so why should you all get upset if i call you apostates?

  if you don't like being called 'apostate', what title would you prefer?

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  bad_associashun

  Being called an apostate [one abandoning something one once believed in, as in a faith] would not offend me coming from a cultist [one professing devoted attachment to a person, principle], or a sectarian [narrow-minded person blindly devoted to a sect].

  Certainly not.

  Edited by - bad_associashun on 30 June 2002 0:34:12
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  How do YOU deal with it??

  by bad_associashun in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello all- recently joined, had some probs getting logged in, but here at last.... anyway, the question is: for those that can relate, when your heart feels heavy from the hurt, pain, regret, sorrow, bitterness, anger... and the lost years, stolen time, forsaken friends, broken relationships, wasted energies, abandonment, and lost love weighs on you --> caused by wt org.

  stress.... how do you get past it?

  what heals you, brings you relief, rescues you from total worthless feelings of inadequacy, comforts your wounds, keeps you from jumping on the train tracks?.

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  bad_associashun

  Enjoyable reading -to all who responded, especially to you all who revealed a personal issue or experience

  It does feel better already- just since finding this place- to know that others share the same feelings- be it disappointment, depression, regret, social retardation... whatever. Unless a person was a JW, he wouldn't get it- it would be like trying to describe colors to someone born blind.

  Kind of makes me wonder how & why so many of us 'bought into' it (?) I tend to agree with a quote I heard long ago: You can only be conned by whatever it is you're greedy for.

  health & happiness,

  badass/rachel
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  Fear, perhaps?

  by bigboi in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have u ever noticed that ppl contemplating becoming dubs actually experience a good bit of fear in the process?

  all the recent talk of disfellowshipping brought this to mind.

  ok, i know that when anyone is thinking about making any kind of committment there is a little apprehensiveness and anxiety.

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  bad_associashun

  Yes, I'd have to agree that fear plays a large part- after all, the org makes such a big deal of the 'vow', the new status of 'baptized publisher', and of course, ONLY THEN are you now in line to receive Jehovah's blessings as a 'dedicated, baptized witness of Jah'- you are 'greeted' at the meetings, of course you can feel them all standing back to actually see if you will turn out to be ONE of them, not quite accepted yet

  And then during the 'would-you-welcome-a-visit-free-home-bible-study', you are repeatedly shown the United in Worship book as well as many, many WT articles that make the 'dedicated, baptized' part very clear [ie: if you're not one of us, you will die]... "Oh my god, you mean I'll die at Armageddon if I'm not a baptized JW?? QUICK- WHERE'S THE WATER?!!

  I guess this had an impact on me, since without any family, I was alone & 'looking for a home'/somewhere to belong- the JWs made me feel I would have all this family & friends (fellow fruit-pickers of the New Order)
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  Social Death: The Practice of DFing among JWs

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  social death: the practice of disfellowshipping among jehovah's witnesses

  many societies establish rules or norms for inclusion in their membership.

  adherence to the established norms permits full membership in the group.

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  bad_associashun

  Superbly written, with truth and from the heart.

  Thank you LadyLee- do send more like this one.

  badass/rachel
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  WORLD GUESTMAP - - - please sign in!

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the guestmap is a feature at the dnc site but i thought it might be cool to for us to get a visual image of where we all are.

  just 'click & hold' the map to drag it around.

  you can then zoom in on your local area.

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  bad_associashun

  very cool idea- signed in among other southern cali dots
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  YES! I AM FREE AT LAST!

  by Kjell Hedblom in

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  2. experiences

  i just got out from jw bye a d.f.

  4 weeks ago after 44 years as an active jw.am i insane or why am i having that great feeling of freedom??

  i am sitting here infront of the computer having a cold beer and just enjoying life.shouldnt i be crying and having a depression sitting here in tears over missing all my jw friends that now are vanished??.

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  bad_associashun

  All the best to you KH, as you have now set yourself free from the 'we-say-one-thing-but really-mean-another' religion; released from the grip at last. Health & happiness to you.

  badass/rachel
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  A NEW SIGN OUT FRONT AT BETHEL!

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think it's time bethel got a new sign out front, one that really speaks volumes and is far more suitable to their "read god's word the bible daily.

  i was thinking: .

  oh what a web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!

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  bad_associashun

  'READ GOD'S INSPIRED WORD- THE WATCHTOWER- DAILY

  ARMAGEDDON COMING ANY DAY NOW'