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  Anyone Close to North Florida?

  by Synergy in

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  i live in tallahassee and i'd love to meet other exjw's that i knew before or that are from around here that i've never met.

  please get in touch with me if you are close by.

  also anyone that wants to do demonstrations let me know.

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  mann377

  I used to know a lot of dubs in tallahassee. I think they either moved away or died. I live in NE Florida.
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  The Bethel Life, Chapter 1

  by daniel-p in

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  preface: .

  following is the first installment of my recollections and notes on bethel.

  they are from my personal viewpoint, and are not intended to be a comprehensive overview of what bethel is all about or any such thing.

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  mann377

  Your experience took me down memory lane. I was there for four years. The (last) table head that I had was a jerk. At first I though he was ok but as time went on I realized he was a control freak. He demanded that you ask permission to leave the table early. Most of the table heads were lifers and had no real life outside of Bethel. After 1 1/2 years at this table he had the nerve to tell the rest of the people at the table not to speak to me, as I had anounced that I would be leaving Bethel, after four years, to take care of my mother. He said that I was not one of "them" any more. So for one (last) week I sat there in silence and then quietly left the last day, not one word to those I sat next to for 1 1/2 years! I often reflect back on that experience with amazement of the mind control so many people were under. There conduct flys in the face of a normal well adjusted person. I ,like DanP, could fill your ears full of all kinds of wacky things and people at the table. I was there during the '75 blow up. All most of the people talked about at the table that year was the "date".

  PS: Don't feel sorry for me about that experience as it was the begining of my deprograming and lead me on the way to freedom!
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  I served under Knorr at Bethel and what Samuel Johnson said applies...

  by Boxed elder bugs in

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  i served under nathan knorr at bethel during the seventies and what the writer samuel johnson said applies to him, "he is not only dull, he is the cause of dullness in others.".

  the only time he wasn't a dull montone voice on the bethel t.v.

  was when he was berating some 'new boy' for some minor transgression.

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  mann377

  To heck with kicking him in the ass. Have him give his "new boy talk" so I can record it and play it in the congergation. NO MORE DULL MEETINGS! When I was there ('70's) I remember the someone left there bicycle in the 119 lobby and Knorr went wacko for an hour. I wish I had a recording of it all.
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  Rutherford's Cadillacs

  by Lady Lee in

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  2. scandals

  recently i read a post somewhere (not even sure if i read it here) about rutherford and his cadillacs.. where ever it was they said the cars cost $600 at the time.

  well i thought that was a little odd.

  since then i have read on 2 separate sites that rutherford's car cost a lot more than $600 each.. here is a picture of rutherford with one of his cars.. .

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  mann377

  Knorr and many of the "big shots" got their rides from the paper companies that did business with the WTBS. One such company was "Domtar". The paybacks were huge! Other suppliers also paid kick backs. Where do you think Bro. Couch got all his booze?
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  5 Questions Designed to Get Witnesses Thinking

  by metatron in

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  questions designed to get witnesses thinking need to be simple, appeal to the heart and mind and should usually avoid.

  technical details they can't appreciate ( 'these cuneiform eclipses tell us the 1914 chronology is wrong') or scandals they.

  can glibly deny ( 'the un forged those wt documents because satan told them to').

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  mann377

  How about these questions:

  1). Are JW's the only christians? If they say"yes" then have them prove prove it from the Bible (how about all the people that lived before the 20th century? ) If they say no, then the WTBS is irrelevent!

  2) Jesus said:" pay ceasar's things to ceasar; what happened in France? Jesus said to no be judging one another; why do they have Judicial committees?

  3) Who appointed the F&DS? Who told you that the GB was the F&DS? (the WTBS)

  4) Do the opinions of the WTBS consitute an article of religious faith? Can you tell the difference between opinions and truthful doctrines? Does the Bible require believing in opinions of others?

  5) Have you ever seen a finanical statement from the WBTS? Do you feel you should have access to one? Can you read a balance sheet? Would you like to see one? (from the WTBS)

  I could go on and on but remember this -------- A RELIGION THAT HAS ALL THE ANSWERS ............DOES NOT ALLOW QUESTION!!!!
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  Attitudes toward former slaves after their emancipation?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i'm not a historian -- nor even "an historian" -- so i'm having trouble figuring out where to start to research this.

  i'd like to see what was written about former slaves as they were absorbed into the nation as free people.

  i'm guessing there would be comments about what great workers they are, how honest, how appreciative -- much like the praise allegedly heaped on jw's.

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  mann377

  The Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond Va. has the most info on the slavery before, during and after the war. Would it surprise you to know that some slave holders were black and went to the caribean after the war? Its like any situation in that it depends on the type of slave and former slave holder. Some slave holders were fair businessmen and others were animals. Its not uncommon to find antiques in the houses of decendents of slaves. These were given to the former slaves after the war, many years after, as an inheritance. Most slaves stayed on as sharecropers because they did not know what to do with their new found freedom. To this day many in the south celebrate "Junteenth" as a day of emancipation. To draw a parallel with the witnesses that leave the plantation of the WTBS would be difficult at best. Its more like the underground railroad (determinded, scared, overjoyed in the end!)
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  Scales falling from my eyes. (very long!)

  by PoppyR in

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  2. experiences

  hi everyone, totally new here.

  and still associating with jws... have been baptised 23 years, that was at the tender age of 13 when i had absolutely no idea what i was doing.

  i have always been considered a rebel...brought up in a family by a single parent, my two brothers are both elders, the younger being a regular pioneer, my sister a regular pioneer and serving in a foreign language congregation.

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  mann377

  Hello Poppy! I don't make many post here although I have been around here a long time. I was moved by your situation and the doubts about the credibility of the WTBS. So I thought I would post my two cents worth. First, it sounds as if you want to leave the plantation (called the org). You need to lay some ground work and take stock of the situation you are in. For example you have a husband who is still in. Is he reasonable? How does he (or other family members) react to you missing the meetings? There are many post here about the best way to fade and fly under the radar of the elders (sometime known as the gestapo). As your powers of reason begin to come back, you will begin to see the WTBS in a much different light. Caution: do not become confrontational! This only feeds the feeding fenzy that the org has programed the dubs to engage in. Please keep posting as this will be a source help in your journey out to freedom. (note: freedom is not free)
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  Wikipedia—Faithful and Discreet Slave

  by AuldSoul in

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  thoughts?

  comments?.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/faithful_and_discreet_slave.

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  mann377

  Yeah: "As a class, the Faithful and Discreet Slave has no authority over anyone or anything. This group is not even listed in the Organizational structure of Jehovah's Witnesses." Shows what a farce the whole organization thing is!
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  More Beth Sarim -- San Diego Messenger

  by TD in

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  mann377

  Excellent post!! This should be very interesting to those that were new to the WTBS and were not familiar with the history of the WTBS. The prize goes to the Judge for being the best conartist in the org.!!!
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  Us vs Them

  by mann377 in

  1. jw
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  i was reading an editorial today from thomas sowell and was amazed by the observation that he made.

  read this and tell me what you think.

  i hope pasting works.

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  mann377

  Forget about politics. Does this give you insite into the typical dubs thinking. A cult way of viewing the world.