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  Intolerance - a new breed of ex-JW

  by LittleToe in

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  i cant help but think of the analogy of pendulum swings when i think about how vitriolic some are towards religion (of any description), the bible (and other scripture), and christianity (generally, regardless of there being a wide range of denominational flavours) in particular.. it seems to me, from my perspective of sitting here on a remote scottish island, that there are a fair number of folks who may have left an intolerant and generalising religion but forgot to leave those attitudes with it.. just my 2p, coz to be frank i'm getting sick of it.. by all means enjoy some self-expression, it's a relatively free planet, but have a heart....

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  mann377

  I have made the same observation. The only conclusion that I could come up with is that the JW's appeal to those that are inclined to be this way and that goes for almost all cults!
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  Any Ex-Bethelites with Stories to Share??

  by Lady Liberty in

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  many of you have read barbara andersons experiences at bethel.

  and if you haven't, dogpatch recently posted it, and elsewhere put in pdf format.

  i encourage you to take the time to read it.

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  I will some day. For now I must fly under the radar. I have the "goods" on some of the big shots at Bethel and stories that will raise the hair on your heads.
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  For those of you who went to Bethel, how was the food?

  by TresHappy in

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  how were the doomsday dumplings?.

  seriously, was the food good?

  i used to hear it was awesome; somehow i don't believe that!

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  Lets see..........................

  First, stay away from the pizza made with bannas

  Second, No pigs liver!!!

  Third, watch out for the stuffed (monkey butts) bell peppers

  Fourth no more Cheerios

  Fifth, You will eat so fast that you don't really care.

  Sixth, at harvest time the food is quite good, just don't let the GB find out about the fine cuts from the slaughter house that we were eating from, word came down from on high that the best cuts were for the Big shots. A lot of S__t hit the fan because of this in 1974.
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  Redneck Church

  by mann377 in

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  you know you're in a redneck church if...

  1. you know you're in a redneck church if .... the finance committee refuses to provide funds for the purchase of a chandelier because none of the members knows how to play one.

  2. you know you're in a redneck church if ... .

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  You Know You're in a Redneck Church if...

  1. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The finance committee refuses to provide funds for the purchase of a chandelier because none of the members knows how to play one. 2. You know You're in a Redneck Church if ... People ask, when they learn that Jesus fed the 5000, whether the two fish were bass or catfish, and what bait was used to catch 'em. 3. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... When the pastor says, "I'd like to ask Bubba to help take up the offering," five guys and two women stand up. 4. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... Opening day of deer season is recognized as an official church holiday. 5. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if... A member of the church requests to be buried in his 4-wheel-drive truck because "It ain't never been in a hole it couldn't get out of." 6. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The choir is known as the "OK Chorale." 7. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... In a congregation of 500 members, there are only seven last names in the church directory. 8. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... People think "rapture" is what you get when you lift something too heavy. 9. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The baptismal pool is a #2 galvanized "Wheeling" washtub. 10. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The choir robes were donated by and embroidered with the logo from Billy Bob's Barbecue. 11. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The collection plates are really hubcaps from a '56 Chevy. 12. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... Instead of a bell you are called to service by a duck call. 13. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The minister and his wife drive matching pickup trucks. 14. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The communion wine is Boone's Farm "Tickled Pink". 15. You Know You're in a Redneck Church if... "Thou shall not covet" applies to huntin' dogs, too. 16. You know You're in a Redneck Church if ... The final words of the benediction are, "Y'all come back now, Ya hear."
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  Anyone Close to North Florida?

  by Synergy in

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  i live in tallahassee and i'd love to meet other exjw's that i knew before or that are from around here that i've never met.

  please get in touch with me if you are close by.

  also anyone that wants to do demonstrations let me know.

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  I used to know a lot of dubs in tallahassee. I think they either moved away or died. I live in NE Florida.
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  The Bethel Life, Chapter 1

  by daniel-p in

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  preface: .

  following is the first installment of my recollections and notes on bethel.

  they are from my personal viewpoint, and are not intended to be a comprehensive overview of what bethel is all about or any such thing.

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  mann377

  Your experience took me down memory lane. I was there for four years. The (last) table head that I had was a jerk. At first I though he was ok but as time went on I realized he was a control freak. He demanded that you ask permission to leave the table early. Most of the table heads were lifers and had no real life outside of Bethel. After 1 1/2 years at this table he had the nerve to tell the rest of the people at the table not to speak to me, as I had anounced that I would be leaving Bethel, after four years, to take care of my mother. He said that I was not one of "them" any more. So for one (last) week I sat there in silence and then quietly left the last day, not one word to those I sat next to for 1 1/2 years! I often reflect back on that experience with amazement of the mind control so many people were under. There conduct flys in the face of a normal well adjusted person. I ,like DanP, could fill your ears full of all kinds of wacky things and people at the table. I was there during the '75 blow up. All most of the people talked about at the table that year was the "date".

  PS: Don't feel sorry for me about that experience as it was the begining of my deprograming and lead me on the way to freedom!
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  I served under Knorr at Bethel and what Samuel Johnson said applies...

  by Boxed elder bugs in

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  i served under nathan knorr at bethel during the seventies and what the writer samuel johnson said applies to him, "he is not only dull, he is the cause of dullness in others.".

  the only time he wasn't a dull montone voice on the bethel t.v.

  was when he was berating some 'new boy' for some minor transgression.

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  To heck with kicking him in the ass. Have him give his "new boy talk" so I can record it and play it in the congergation. NO MORE DULL MEETINGS! When I was there ('70's) I remember the someone left there bicycle in the 119 lobby and Knorr went wacko for an hour. I wish I had a recording of it all.
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  Rutherford's Cadillacs

  by Lady Lee in

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  recently i read a post somewhere (not even sure if i read it here) about rutherford and his cadillacs.. where ever it was they said the cars cost $600 at the time.

  well i thought that was a little odd.

  since then i have read on 2 separate sites that rutherford's car cost a lot more than $600 each.. here is a picture of rutherford with one of his cars.. .

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  Knorr and many of the "big shots" got their rides from the paper companies that did business with the WTBS. One such company was "Domtar". The paybacks were huge! Other suppliers also paid kick backs. Where do you think Bro. Couch got all his booze?
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  5 Questions Designed to Get Witnesses Thinking

  by metatron in

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  questions designed to get witnesses thinking need to be simple, appeal to the heart and mind and should usually avoid.

  technical details they can't appreciate ( 'these cuneiform eclipses tell us the 1914 chronology is wrong') or scandals they.

  can glibly deny ( 'the un forged those wt documents because satan told them to').

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  How about these questions:

  1). Are JW's the only christians? If they say"yes" then have them prove prove it from the Bible (how about all the people that lived before the 20th century? ) If they say no, then the WTBS is irrelevent!

  2) Jesus said:" pay ceasar's things to ceasar; what happened in France? Jesus said to no be judging one another; why do they have Judicial committees?

  3) Who appointed the F&DS? Who told you that the GB was the F&DS? (the WTBS)

  4) Do the opinions of the WTBS consitute an article of religious faith? Can you tell the difference between opinions and truthful doctrines? Does the Bible require believing in opinions of others?

  5) Have you ever seen a finanical statement from the WBTS? Do you feel you should have access to one? Can you read a balance sheet? Would you like to see one? (from the WTBS)

  I could go on and on but remember this -------- A RELIGION THAT HAS ALL THE ANSWERS ............DOES NOT ALLOW QUESTION!!!!
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  Attitudes toward former slaves after their emancipation?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i'm not a historian -- nor even "an historian" -- so i'm having trouble figuring out where to start to research this.

  i'd like to see what was written about former slaves as they were absorbed into the nation as free people.

  i'm guessing there would be comments about what great workers they are, how honest, how appreciative -- much like the praise allegedly heaped on jw's.

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  mann377

  The Museum of the Confederacy in Richmond Va. has the most info on the slavery before, during and after the war. Would it surprise you to know that some slave holders were black and went to the caribean after the war? Its like any situation in that it depends on the type of slave and former slave holder. Some slave holders were fair businessmen and others were animals. Its not uncommon to find antiques in the houses of decendents of slaves. These were given to the former slaves after the war, many years after, as an inheritance. Most slaves stayed on as sharecropers because they did not know what to do with their new found freedom. To this day many in the south celebrate "Junteenth" as a day of emancipation. To draw a parallel with the witnesses that leave the plantation of the WTBS would be difficult at best. Its more like the underground railroad (determinded, scared, overjoyed in the end!)