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  My take of the convention

  by mann377 in

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  just spent the last weekend listening to the program and fortunatly i'm not programable.

  anyway i had to listen to two members of the gb.

  it was very interesting to listen now with the aid of technology and the big screens.

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  mann377

  Just spent the last weekend listening to the program and fortunatly I'm not programable. Anyway I had to listen to two members of the GB. It was very interesting to listen now with the aid of technology and the BIG screens. It gave me more insite as to the BS that the GB is handing out. When ever you are talking to someone or they are talking to you the facial expressions are of real importance. Seeing these expressions of the speakers was not possible until now. Bro lett was following mostly a scrip and the only thing I could observe were his eye brows going high on his forhead and then very low (all this on a 16ft x 20 screen). So much that I started to get dizzy. Thank goodness for the arm rest on the seats. The next member of the GB was Bro Morris. I must say he had a more conversational quality than anyone else I have listened to. This would be of great value as I could read his body english, tone of his voice along with facial expressions. You could see that he was BS'g and knew it. Example: he would talk in a very conversational way with cander while looking at the camera but when mentioning "time of the end", or doctrine things he would look at the outline and would not make eye contact with audience. This is very common when soneone is knowingly BS'g.
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  Watchtower buys former FAA center

  by mann377 in

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  check this out: http://daytonanewsjournal.fl.newsmemory.com/.

  i understnd it will be used for married couples to train for where the need is great.

  ouch!

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  Check this out: http://daytonanewsjournal.fl.newsmemory.com/

  I understnd it will be used for married couples to train for where the need is great. Ouch! The pour tax base in flagler county. The place will hold 200 couples. So I guess the WTBS will have a large presents in north Florida.
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  Nestor and Toni Kuilan in the works of a new book!

  by A.proclaimer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  nestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .

  read a little bit about it here:.

  http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.

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  mann377

  When I was in Bethel Don Adams always wore sandals instead of shoes. In '73 this was unusual. Always wondered if it was a foot problem or a fashion statement.
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  Fred Franz Personal Experiences

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there is so little to be found about the personal side of fred franz.

  it's as if he was an enigma except for his appearances to give district convention speeches years ago.

  there is, of course, ray franz' take on his uncle in his book coc.. please share you first-hand, or second-hand reliable, experiences.

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  mann377

  I sat at his table for a short time in '73 in the Squibb building. Lets see: green tie (bright) with red plaid shirt and brown wool pants. Some times talked to his shoes. Liked to listen to the bongo's played by a brother named Willy (he was in the press room with me). Liked his wine, a lot. When you talked to him you got the impression he was not listening but was in his own world. Never and I mean NEVER argue with him, I saw what happened to someone else. Very few people could talk to him so as to make a "point", one was Charlie Feckle (my old friend).
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  Does this sound familiar?

  by mann377 in

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  this was an interesting read:.

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  http://narrative.ly/desperately-seeking-something/my-childhood-in-an-apocalyptic-cult/.

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  mann377

  This was an interesting read:

  http://narrative.ly/desperately-seeking-something/my-childhood-in-an-apocalyptic-cult/
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  Ex-Military JWs collect money

  by Jon Preston in

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  isnt this somehing that would be against god or at least hypocritical?

  jws who were in the military but quit still accept money from their jobs so they can pioneer and still get paid..... or am i being too harsh.. .

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  The only problem is that in order to recieve retirement from the miltary you have to agree to defend the country and put the uniform on again if called. So here the elder is preaching the "good news of the WTBS" all the while agreeing to the retirement conditions. What do we call this? Oh by the way I have seen elders counsel brothers who had a gov contract to mow the lawn at a base all the while the elder was retired miltary!
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  ANY FORMER BETHELITES (1972 to 1976)?

  by Okole Head in

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  met one recently in a small town in ca.

  we both worked construction at towers (same department) but did not cross paths until a few weeks ago..

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  mann377

  I lived at the Towers '73. Worked in the press room
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  TTATT in a can

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  2. friends

  so... i have been working on an excel spreadsheet that has "ttatt in a can"... i have it both in spanish and in english.

  here's a preview:.

  category / year1879188018901891name?bible studentsbible students "time of the end" starts in the year?17991799 "parousia" (presence)?18741874 jesus enthroned?18781878 end of the harvest?19141914 earthly resurrection?

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  I think I will copy and make a poster out of it!
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  “Apostate” Presentations

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower often gives jws examples of presentations to householders.

  something like, many people believe in miracles.

  others are skeptical.

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  That's great! The 30 sec. presentation that I thought of would start out about John 17:16. I would ask: Should someone teach their own opinion? Then I would show them John 17:16...........He that speaks of his own originality is seeking his own glory ; but he that seeks the glory of him that sent him, this one is true, and there is no unrighteousness in him. " . Do you think the WTBTS teaches their own opinion? How about the generation thing? or 1975? At this point pull out the old Make Sure book (ouch!) and review some of the crazy teachings. As a real hoot show them what a creative day is (ouch!) After all the wierd beliefs ask the witness; Who's opinion were these teachings? Did it come from Jehovah? Then what authority did they have for teaching the things in the Make Sure book? "Because they were anointed? Who told you they were anointed? They did? Who told you they were gods "governing body"? They did?
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  No bibles at any kingdomhalls, strong rumors the annual meeting is regarding the bible...

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from relatives and contacts in 2 states, there have been no bibles available for a couple months.

  one person mentioned to me as well about supposed quotes in the magazines from other bibles.

  rumors are that they will announce a new bible, or possibly tell everyone to buy a bible from another place that they approve of.

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  mann377

  Just got the hot news!......................Their adding some new books to the bible!!!! The book of Franz, Rutherford and Jaraz. Lots of parables and time tables for our modern time. This should prove great reading when the weather is bad and you have nothing to do. The book study will be restarted so as to review these books. A written test will be given every six weeks and those that don't pass will anounced from the platform.