Claudia:
I agree with that. However, LDH wants all the man's money. that ain't cool, yo.
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bigboi
"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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LDH:
I think it's good you are able to give your daughter such a good lifestyle. However, I find it hard to believe that it really takes that much to raise a child. The lifestyle you want to give your kid is fine. I see nothing wrong with that. All I'm saying is why should one parent in this regard be made to foot that bill. If you were getting the 20 grand a yr to take care of your daughter,then she would be totally paid for with just the child support payments. Should that include the extra room in the house? It looks like you would prolly owe him money because you said earlier that if possible you would have him pay for her insurance also.
You mentioned the time you spent taking care of her. Well, it's your kid . You're supposed to spend time taking care of her, nobody should feel liable to pay you for that. If that's an issue then give her dad some custody too.
Another thing you mentioned tht most women get 17% of minimum wage. Then they are forced to find a way to raise a child off that. Well, they are supposed to be working too, right. If anything they're prolly getting a lil bit extra. I still feel it's not right for a woman who chooses to have child for a sorry broke ass individual, to play the victim. Nor do I feel it's right for any woman after bringing a child into this world irresponsibly to feel that someone is now obligated to take care of her, or assume full responsibility to take care of her child. You made your bed, now lay in it plain and simple. Child support should not be a means for anyone to get a lifestyle upgrade, period.
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"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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No Atheists in a Foxhole
by hippikon inever heard the saying that there arent any atheists in a foxhole - i think that is nonsense atheists are born in foxholes
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Rem:
I think I now see your point. Atheism to you is simply a common belief that some folks share. I got cha now.
I think it's belief systemn because of the way I hear it defended sometimes around here. Also in some programs I hear atheists talk bout Nature in almost glowing terms, like it was their God or somethin. I really see no difference between atheists and religious beliefs. I think it's the same shit, different theory.
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"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
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LDH:
Ummmm......(gulp).....Uhhhhhhh......
Nah, seriously though Lisa. Don't take what I'm sayin personal. I don't have any kids. Hopefully I won't until I'm married. I feel what you're saying and I hope my opinions didn't come across as insensitive to single mothers. However, I don't believe that child support should go to women who want to live off their ex's or their baby's dad. Hell a child ain't a mutual fund, you shouldn't be allowed to have someone's kid and get a lifestyle upgrade. It just isn't fair. Now you and I both know that ain't what happens most of the time, but it's pretty close.
As far as the CS not being taxable, flat out don't be dumb. Uncle Sam has laws against double taxation. If the man and woman were living together, she wouldn't pay taxes on it. The whole point is to not penalize the child because the parents are not together.
When a man and a woman live together they both contribute to the financial support of the child, at least in most cases. I don't know whether child support is a pre-tax or after-tax deduction so I can't comment on that. I guess you can disregard that, but I did say it was hearsay. I've never heard of a woman being required to list cs as taxable income.
In addition, if the father is non-custodial, and has no interest at all in his child, as evidenced by the fact he had to be court ordered to pay child support, the mother claims that child as a dependent. So she gets the money and the tax write-off, yer damn skippy. And you have the nerve to thinks that's selfish?
Never said that. I said it isn't fair to make a man take care of a child if he doesn't want to. I stand by that. Men and women should have the same rights. If a woman doesn't want a child for whatever reason then she has a right to an abortion. If a man doesn't want a child he has no rights, period. That's reality, a fact. Now, I beleive in taking care of your own. Should I have any I will definitely take care of my responsiblity, no doubt. However, that doesn't get rid of the fact that a double standard exists there.
Tell me how it would be one penny less if you and the woman were married and had that child together. The bottom line, properly caring for a child COSTS MONEY There is a very easy way NOT to get children, wear a condom. My husband was 35 when I met him, and he had NO children ANYWHERE. ON PURPOSE. PS, He wasn't celibate before he met me.
I don't know anyone that spends 1600 dollars a month on one child. I not saying there aren't certain times where you do spend a lot. But no one spends that much on one kid on a regular basis, unless they're rich and the kids in private school or is sick or something. The same goes fer yourself. Take birth control or something. It takes two to tango, waltz, whatever.
As I mentioned, I worked full-time with no welfare benefits of any kind. HELLO BIG BOI. Big fucking deal her biological father pays me some money. I have 24/7 full time responsibility, and anyone who knows me will tell you I don't take parenting lightly. We are both paying for not being careful enough.
Like you mentioned BIG DEAL. You had her, she's your responsibilty, your suppposed to work and take care of your child. The same goes for him. He should pay support as long as it's a fair amount and it isn't subsidizing someone else's lifestyle besides his child.
Damn, legal fees are a bitch. Ya should've made him pay em for being dishonest with you. I don't feel sorry for deadbeats. I was just attempting to start a bit of a dialogue and bring some things I thought about this issue to front. I know it's tough, my moms and grandmother were both single parents. I know all about cs fights cause my mom had to fight my dad for hers. That doesn't mean I can close my eyes to the double standards though.
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bigboi
"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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No Atheists in a Foxhole
by hippikon inever heard the saying that there arent any atheists in a foxhole - i think that is nonsense atheists are born in foxholes
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Rem:
You said:
Heck, both Jews and Christians disbelieve in the actual existence of Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny - does that mean they share the same belief system?
No, I never said that all atheists share the same beliefs in thier belief systems. I said that atheism is a belief system. All religions are party to different interpretations of their beliefs. Athiesm is no different.
Take Christianty for example. Mst Christians believe that the God of the bible is the only true God and he sent his Son to die for the sins of mankind. That is in essence the tenet of Christianity. In Islam they believe that Allah is God and Mohammed is his prophet. That's thier basic belief. Yet, in both these religions you find different groups who believe in different interpretations of these basic tenets and their accompanying bylaws. The atheism you describe seems to me to be quite similar.
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"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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No Atheists in a Foxhole
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Rem:
Okay guys, pardon moi. What is y'alls definition of belief system? Yeah, that was yet another attempt in vain at humor on my part.
Atheism isn't a belief system. There are many types of atheists who believe many different things. The only thing they have in common really is that they do not hold an active belief in any diety.
Is it just me or does that seem just a lil contradictory? Seriously though.
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"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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No Atheists in a Foxhole
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Funkyderek:
The assumptions you made in your post are a prime example why I believe that atheism is in fact a belief system.
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"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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No Atheists in a Foxhole
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Hey All;
Atheism seems to me to be a belief system just like any other that has ever existed.
I once worked with a guy who was an avowed atheist, yet everytime something unexpected happened the frst thing out his mouth was, "Jesus Christ"!!!!!
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"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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Bizarre news story
by BoozeRunner inheres a bizarre story....tell me what you think!.
court shouldn't regulate one's right to have sex .
by kathleen parker .
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Kenyata:
You asked:
Do you feel that all females that become pregnant, knowing that the daddy won't or can't take care of them and they know they don't have any money either, should automatically have their babies killed?
I'm just saying there are many extenuating circumstances in relationships regarding children. My point is the woman can decide to give birth to the chld or not. A man does not have that option. So if he does not want the child and can't afford to raise it why should he be required to do so? Just a thought.
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"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia
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Kenyata:
I feel what you're saying. Take the experience LDH just posted. Now if you were paying 25% to Uncle Sam. Then you had another 10% coming out for retirement and insurance that's already more than a third of your pay. Then add on the additional 17% for a kid and that's like half your pay. A lot of women abuse this. I heard that it's supposed to be changing, but women didn't have to count it as part of their income coming in for taxes, but it still counted as earned income on the father's taxes. Not to sure about that one, but that's what I've heard. IMO, a ncp shouldn't have to give up a portion of their income to help support the child and the parent. It's child support, not child and parent support.
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bigboi
"it ain't what ya do. it's how you do it" quote from the song "True Honeybunz" by Bahamadia