Yes, but the only reason Saddam is no longer leader of Iraq is because George Bush had a bigger gun. As you yourself point out, anyone that comes against the US ends up looking like Swiss cheese.
MungoBaobab
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Who is more powerful? A leader that convinces people, or threatens/kills?
by DavidChristopher inwhich do you think is the most powerful leader?.
the leader that can convince his people to follow his example, and trust him.. or the leader that threatens his people, and carries a big gun.
any thoughts?
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Which massacres did Jehovah sanction?
by Spectrum inthe ones i'm familiar with are from the repercussion of the rape and murder of the levites concubine.
judges 19-21 .
about 100,000 died in battle then all the towns of benjamin were put to the sword as were the people that didn't join in against the benjamites.
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MungoBaobab
Judges 18:27 As for them, they took what Micah had made and the priest that had become his, and they kept going toward Laish, against a people quiet and unsuspecting. And they proceeded to strike them with the edge of the sword, and the city they burned with fire.
Ever see the movie Conan the Barbarian? The opening sequence contains what must be a fairly accurate re-enactment of how the Merciful God Jehovah, the very Personification of Love, sent his people to destroy a "quiet and unsuspecting" village when it introduces THE VILLAINS!!!!
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PRISON PROSELYTING
by Think inwhat will happen when the gang mebers, murderers and others prisoners become jw, and then sooner or later will learn that this is man made religion, false prophets lies and make ups?
will they take revange on the wt leaders, or will they slaughter all cult members in anger?
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MungoBaobab
I don't know about that. Prisons are havens for unconventional religions; rebellious people choose rebellious belief systems. True, as a JW you're expected to conform to the expectations and standards of the WTS, but there must be something comforting to someone on the fringe of society to join a religion which holds that essentially all traditional authority figures (clergy, politicians, police, scientists, etc.) are pawns of the devil and destined for a violent end.
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name your addiction
by BlackSwan of Memphis inok, what's your junk food addiction?.
is it chips, doritos, taco bell or mcds?.
i'm polishing off a bag of doritos as i write this and wondered what other people chow on.... meagan
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I saw John from Revelation at Bethel
by Funchback inhow lame was i that when i toured bethel many years ago, i was all giddy when i saw the old man who was "john" from the wtbts 'revelation' book?
"ooh!
it's the guy from the revelation book!
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YES FUNCHABACK PLEASE MAKE ME LAUGH FEW MORE TIMES BEFORE JEHOVAH DESTROYS YOU AT ARMAGEDDON.
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What weird things have you read in the bible?
by stillAwitness inthe fact that nimrod's name means: "he stirred up the whole earth to rebel"
and yet ezra's name means: "help"
what caused nimord's mother to name him something that had such a negative meaning and yet he turned out to be just that?
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MungoBaobab
What about this one: The Bible is the Word of God, right? Its authors were inspired by God. Of course they knew this, that they were inspired by God, or how else could they write of things happening in heaven, thousands of years ago, decades old coversations verbatim, etc.
Okay. Then explain this:
1 Corinthians 7:10- "To the married people I give instructions, yet not I but the Lord, that a wife should not depart from her husband."
1 Corinthians 7:12- "But to the others I say, yes, I not the Lord: If any brother has an unbelieveing wife, and yet she is agreeable to dwelling with him, let him not leave her."
So, is 1 Corinthians the word of God, or not? 'Cause Paul kinda says he doesn't think it is, and he wrote the damn thing.
Then there's the matter of appropriate language in the Bible.
Galatians 5:12- "I wish the men who are trying to overturn you would even get themselves emascualted."
Oh yeah, that's appropriate. Imagine an elder giving a talk said such a thing!
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What weird things have you read in the bible?
by stillAwitness inthe fact that nimrod's name means: "he stirred up the whole earth to rebel"
and yet ezra's name means: "help"
what caused nimord's mother to name him something that had such a negative meaning and yet he turned out to be just that?
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Double life, anyone??
by dinah inhow many of you lead double lives while growing up (especially those who grew up jw)?
in the last few days, it seems that bothers me about my adolescence.
i had to be one person for my mother, while still trying to be myself.
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MungoBaobab
Isn't it ironic that DINAH is the one posting a thread about a double life? How many times did the Watchtower browbeat us kids on leading a double life by invoking the story of Dinah?
Or is that why you picked your name? I wonder...
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Why didn't Jesus Outdo Greek Scientist?
by Spectrum inif i wanted to prove to a bunch of tribal ignoramuses that i'm the big boss i'd show them a few scientific tricks that would have dazzled them.
like electricity, how the brain really works, higher mathematics, tell them how a star is formed since he created them, set up a fusion reactor for eternal energy source.
he walked on water, see that might impress the odd shepherd or two back then but it leaves nothing for us to go on today as we can just reject it out of hand as a myth.
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The resurrection of Jesus or any of his followers would indeed prove his divinity if any of these people were alive today. But they're not. All that's left of these or any of the other miracles recorded in the bible is a neat story, and even some of the miracles are so hokey they're laughable. Anyone remember that guy who left a fleece on the ground overnight and the dew didn't stick to it? Didn't think so!
Instead we have Jesus who claims the mustard seed is the smallest in the world. If you (co)created every species of plant, wouldn't you have instead said "The smallest seed you know of is the mustard seed, though there are many, many smaller," and then went on with your sermon? Or would you make a flase claim for dramatic effect? Isn't that lying?
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How would a car salesman who needed a gun to rip people off look to others?
by DavidChristopher inwar?
or "disagreement"?
how do you win?
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MungoBaobab
Sure. Only about 2% of people in the United States claim to be atheist. Do you think more than 2% of Americans steal?
In fact, I think the idea of a god that forgives wrongdoing can actually encourage antisocial behavior. According to my atheistic beliefs, I am a supreme being in the universe, along with my fellow man. I'm a spiritual adult, responsible for myself and my behavior. If I had a God, a father who art in heaven, to fix all my transgressions, I could behave like a child, just as juveniles aren't legally accountable for their crimes