Are not the exchanging of rings on the wedding day also pagan? No matter what day you choose to do something, some pagan has done something on that day, BIG DEAL! Who cares. No matter what we do, pagans have already done it. Eat, sleep, $hit, they have already done it. Are those things wrong also?
PaNiCAtTaCk
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XMAS AND XMAS TREES OF PAGAN ORIGIN? POSSIBLY NOT!
by badboy inoften xmas is associated with saturnalia by some people.. in fact saturnalia was celebrated 17 december to 23 december.. dies natalis natalis invicti was first celebrated on december 25 in about 270.. xmas trees are first mentioned in 1570.. no connection with paganism there..
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who besides me turned a friend into the elders for something trivial?
by PaNiCAtTaCk ini told on a girl for liking a worldy boy at school.
me and another brother actually waited down the street from the boys house to see if she went there after school, just to get some proof for the eders.
i cant believe i did that:( did anyone else spy on another witness like i did?
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I told on a girl for liking a worldy boy at school. Me and another brother actually waited down the street from the boys house to see if she went there after school, just to get some proof for the eders. I cant believe i did that:( Did anyone else spy on another witness like i did?
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Did leaving the borg ruin your marriage
by Billzfan23 inhas anyone else here left the borg and had it go over like a lead ballon, ruining their marriage?
mine is quickly heading that way.
i have been married for about a decade, and have a couple of kids - both in grade school.
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PaNiCAtTaCk
COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL and releasing the bonds were both instrumental in getting my wife to see the truth. They were somewhat neutral to her, so she would listen. I underlined quotes and would read them to her to get her interested. There are several powerful quotes in these books. It was amazing to me to see just how similar all high control groups are. After we read combating cult mind control and releasing the bonds then Crisis of Conscience was welcomed without hesitation. It was freedom for her, from that point on. Even though i personally read CoC first, Steve hassans books really helped me tremendously, on my own exit. They helped me past those little doubts that would still come up, things like "yeah, they predicted the end several times but maybe they are the CLOSEST thing to the truth":) All groups are the same and i dont think i will ever fit in, anywhere. I know the JW's arent the truth and all the JEsus talk makes me sick to my stomach. I am now reading books about mormon fundamentalism. I think im more interested in religions than the bible at this point in my life.
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Sitting Here Crying
by Undecided injust head that my grandson has a bad kind of cancer.
it's hard to accept stuff like this.
i just hope they can do something to help him survive.. ken p..
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PaNiCAtTaCk
my sister had only 6 months to live and that was 30 years ago. I hope that you can have the same luck with your family. Anytime i get a chance to donate to st. jude research hospital i donate. Although, my sister shuns me now:( Im very sorry for what your having to go through.
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anyone feeling a wee bit guilty about celebrating Thanksgiving and Xmas??
by Star Moore ini was feeling a bit guilty about celebrating as this is my 1st year out and i know the history of all the holidays and birthdays are pagan or bloody or idolatrous.. .
but i was thinking that it's not what someone made them in the past but what they are right now.. to us, at this moment.
am i going to sit down on thanksgiving.. and say, "i hate those indians, think i'll go kill some"..????
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PaNiCAtTaCk
Last year was our first year celebrating holidays. My 6 year old of course accepted it with arms wide open. My wife suprised me also. Myself, i enjoyed it ok, but i had a few moments of guilt. This year things are great. Ive been looking forward to Christmas for 2 months now. Sure, its pagan origin. That has nothing to do with what it is 2 thousand years later. If Charles Taze Russel believed in pyramidology, does that make the watchtower of today Pagan? The pagans ate, slept, and drank just like we do, are those things wrong also? Its all so trivial now. I just laugh at how we used to be so overboard and ignorant.
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Who is DF/DA or Fader???
by mama1119 ini was just wondering, how many dfed to we have on here compared to da or faders??
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started as a fader and then opened my big mouth to a friend in an email and wound up dfed in march
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Does anyone have this Golden Age scan?
by PaNiCAtTaCk inis is from an advertisement for the millions booklet that appeared on the back page of several golden age magazines, it says:
do these things appeal to you?
unending human life; perpetual health;... no more fear of the landlord, the doctor, the sheriff,
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PaNiCAtTaCk
Is is from an advertisement for the Millions booklet that appeared on the back page of several Golden Age magazines, It says: Do these things appeal to you? Unending human life; perpetual health;... no more fear of the landlord, the doctor, the sheriff, the employer, of evil men and angels, of vicious animals, of dependent old age; no more blindness, lameness, deafness, dumbness; no more bald heads, glass eyes, false teeth, or wooden legs; no more sickness, disease, or pestilence; no more ignorance or superstition; no more sorrow; no more tears! No, we are not trifling: these things and more are absolutely sure, because promised by the Word of God. The world has already ended,... earth's times of restitution, its springtime, begins to count in 1926. When that times comes, all the above blessings will not come instantaneously, but will come speedily on those who live through the next five or six years of trouble. [5]
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do you agree with this statement by the org?
by PaNiCAtTaCk inthis was taken off the jw-media website
conscience
jehovah's witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict bible teachings.
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I know, i was floored when i read there statement! They have a multitude of man made beliefs just like the scribes and pharisees.
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do you agree with this statement by the org?
by PaNiCAtTaCk inthis was taken off the jw-media website
conscience
jehovah's witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict bible teachings.
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the formating came up wrong and i cant change it:( Conscience is the heading.
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do you agree with this statement by the org?
by PaNiCAtTaCk inthis was taken off the jw-media website
conscience
jehovah's witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict bible teachings.
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This was taken off the jw-media website Conscience Jehovah's Witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the Scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict Bible teachings. Emphasis is placed on personal application of Bible principles and the value of a sound, Bible-based conscience.—Matthew 15:9; 2 Corinthians 1:24.