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  Emotionally stunted

  by onacruse in

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  just had a good phone call with a friend i met on this board...got me to thinking about my life as a jw.

  he's been "out" almost as long as i was "in.".

  i was a reg pub at 6 years old, decided (yes, a very deliberate decision) to go to bethel when i was 8 years old, and was baptized at 10 years old (in 1962).

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  nilfun:

  Respectfully, I cannot agree with the statement that we are fortunate that we had an upbringing that taught us values
  and instilled in us the abilitity to think. That's not true for all who responded to onacruse's initial post...

  Respectfully your point is taken, maybe a better choice of wording would have been "morals" and maybe I should have said this in regard for myself only. What I've gotten from being raised a JW, is an ingrained sense of values and morals and these dogg me continuously. The "knowing" right from wrong, good from bad and the ability to make for myself, most of the time good honorable decisions.

  I can also sympathize with the example you gave of what happened to you when you were nine years old. The "stunting" starts so early on and we do cease to become "people" and become robotrons doing the WTBS work of preaching and selling those books. It's a pity, but at some point we have to get over it and get on with living and onto the fast track of making a life that works in today's society. Which involves overcoming the ways we were "stunted", or feel such.

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  my cup isn't half anything, it's overflowing

  It sounds like you have done your work of healing, my hats off to you!

  And all those bible studies were a big waste of my time.

  They taught me HOW to study, which was my point. As did the ministry school, it taught me how to do research, develop a theme, talk to others in a coherent way, develop material and these are things that I find useful today in college. Explaination of myself, I'm old and going to college and I have met some people my same age who are also "displaced homemakers" aka: divorced single women, those who have had no kind of schooling outside of leaving high school are lost and having a hard time with the whole study concept. In my healing process after I got all the anger out (it still raises it's ugly head from time to time), I have found that to be thankful for even the tiniest things can make an otherwise bleek situation seem better.

  I hope that makes more sense to you nilfun and btw I noticed you are a newbie, I wish to welcome you to the board, this is an awesome place Simon has made for us.

  bc I'll go back when pigs fly!
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  I'm just curious.........

  by WildHorses in

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  i want to get an idea of how many people have left the org in the past five years.

  which of the following years did you leave?.

  1998 i left.

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  I left in 2000 it was my New Year's resolution, I had a slip and went to the Memorial in 2001 it was a good slip because it convienced me that I never want to go back, it was one of the worst days of my life! Even so it left such a bad memory about the B'org I never even thought of the memorial this year! Prior to that I had only been going to big events, like baby showers, anniversary celibrations, B-B-Ques and I never missed the 4th of July fireworks shindig, beer bash at the elders house!

  Good grief Craig are you a math schooler or something........all them numbers......my head is still spinning........stop! Make it stop!

  bc of the I hate math class and I'll go back when pigs fly!
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  Emotionally stunted

  by onacruse in

  1. jw
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  just had a good phone call with a friend i met on this board...got me to thinking about my life as a jw.

  he's been "out" almost as long as i was "in.".

  i was a reg pub at 6 years old, decided (yes, a very deliberate decision) to go to bethel when i was 8 years old, and was baptized at 10 years old (in 1962).

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  I guess it's all in how you want to look at life, the cup half empty or half full. It seems to me Craig that you have found the problem, which for some is a long trek that leads to many adventures, some good some bad. Now the adventure is to find the right solution, for everyone it's different.

  I am almost certain that there are a lot of "stunted" people out there who never heard or delt in anyway with a religious cult. Very few are able to look inside themselves for the answers and even fewer are ready to acknowledge the problem, sadly even fewer are willing to do the inside job and work on themselves. I have learned in my journey that finding the problem is half the job, the easy half, the solution is where the true work lies and the biggest reward comes from.

  Craig and all of you that responded, we are fortunate IMHO that we had an upbringing that taught us values and instilled in us the abilitity to think. All those bible studies weren't for nothing! I feel in many respects that I am ahead of the game of life as opposed to some of my female counter parts that are in the same situation I'm in now, single, old and unskilled and off to college to get educated. I at least know how to study, how to pay attention in class even when it's boring, how to schedule classes around a busy schedule, take notes, do homework when I would rather go outside and play, hehe ;o) all this I learned from the countless meetings and assemblies I endured and yes they made me stronger. Imagine having to buckle down and learn some of that while 50 years old!

  In life it's not the things that come easy that make us what we are but it's the struggles we go through that make us strong. That's when we learn and grow and as long as we are breathing lets hope we are still learning new things about ourselves and life.

  Craig you have so much going for you and I am positive that you will grow up to be emotionally and socially sound as long as that is your quest, that is your journey, you too will find your own unique way. Happy trails!

  bc of the 50 and gettin a life class
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  Please, I am so upset...I need some hugs...

  by Sentinel in

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  i am having a very difficult time and i am here right now because i know in my heart, that when i explain what has just happened to me a few minutes ago, you will understand.

  many of you are no doubt going through the same thing.. within several posts here, i have spoken of my mother.

  my dear sweet mother, who just turned 78, and who has been a faithful jw since 1959. she abandoned me in 1981, when i decided to leave the borg, and for twelve years she did not speak to me, write to me, call me, or visit me.

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  ((((((Karen))))))

  I feel so overwhelmed with sadness. I have a sinking feeling that we will hear a lot more stories like yours, mine included.

  I am glad that we have this place to come to and console each other, I hope my hug helps you and your sisters.

  ((((((Sooner and Polly))))))

  Just one thing girls never give up on your Mother, call her, write to her and be just the opposite of what she has been programed to be, BE LOVING!

  bc of the tearful class
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  So I was put in the back of a police car....

  by Mimilly in

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  oops.... should start at the beginning of a story shouldn't i!

  i've been lower than a serpent's belly as of late.

  finances just got a whole lot worse; argued 5 times with monopolistic telephone company who took my payment (money from 'hubby') yet didn't re-connect me; went searching for my resume on hubby's computer and found child porn instead.

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  (((((((((Mimilly)))))))))

  I'm so glad you are here to tell us your story. I can tell you that suicide is something I struggled with until 10 years ago and I know what a brave act it was for you to reach out for help. I'm glad that deep down you felt you were worth the bother and someday I hope you will know it through and through, down to the core of your inner being.

  You are as you can see well loved!

  (((((((Mim's Angel)))))))

  (((((((Cassi & Max)))))))

  bc
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  my story

  by little witch in

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  hi everybody.. this is my first post.

  i have been reading the forums for some time, but have not posted til now, as it brings painful memories.. my experience with the jw's began in 1967, when my mother was killed in a car crash, and my father married a jw six months later.

  we were a ''blended family''.

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  Welcome Little Witch, and I like your name what an awesome idea to take something out of the negitive light and make it positive!

  I can tell you are a true survivor! You'll find lots of support here, for the most part we all have been scared by the B'org in someway or another. The more I read of the family lives of those here the more I am convinced that the B'orginazation is one of the most disfunctional society alive.

  Sentinel, how funny I too love to sleep in total darkness and I cover up the lights on my VCR, microwave, alarm clock and anything else that has a light glowing! Damn those appliances give off a "glow" that I can see with my eyes shut! LOL I never bothered to figure out why I love the dark, I used to be scared of it so I figured I have made progress.

  Hope to hear more from you Little Witch, join us roudy ones in chat!

  bc I'll go back when pigs fly!
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  The purpose of being a Witness?

  by bikerchic in

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  what is the purpose of being a jehovah's witness?

  i was always told it was to be a witness of jehovah, meaning you stood up for and defended your faith, your beliefs.

  i realize that this is a hard thing for some to do, it takes bravery, knowledge, faith and a convection that what you believe is right.

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  Many thanks to everyone for their replies, you all have summized the purpose of the witness very well.......as Farkel said, "The whole religion is about selling books. That's it." I got it Farkel and I love your to the point personallity!

  ((((Craig)))) thanks you are such a sweetie! Like you said, " That's what the purpose of being a JW should be...love. The two years before I finally left the borg I went around saying, "where's the love...." sigh, I just have to get over it!

  Libra_Spirit, today I thought (while cleaning my nieces house) for the FIRST time I just want to be rid of all these lying creaps and honestly considered sending a DA letter, something I thought I would never do. I am a bubble popper! I want to be FREE!! Wow I think I feel better now.

  IJlittle, how right you are, the dubbs just don't get it!!

  bc I'll go back when pigs fly!

  Edited by - bikerchic on 28 August 2002 21:22:36

  Edited by - bikerchic on 28 August 2002 22:22:0
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  Black Balled

  by WildTurkey in

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  well all the brothers that i work for out of town has black balled me cause im disassociated, but they are working a known child molester, he is repentant lol, hope they protect their kids.

  i got a phone call tonight and they told me that the dent shops in denver, tulsa, amarillo, dont want me.

  hope yall still love me.

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  (((((((((((((WT)))))))))))))

  That totally sucks! I'm going thru much of the same thing with family, I may loose 1/3 of my income before it's over.......they aren't the only fish in the sea, right? Do your own thing, be their competition and their biggest fear, go get 'em big guy!

  You hang in there and hugs to LyinEyes and the kiddos!

  bc I'll go back when pigs fly!
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  Vegas, Baby

  by wasasister in

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  woooo hoooo!

  last minute labor day weekend trip to vegas.

  three nights, free first-class upgrade flight...all for a song.

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  Hey Wassa!!!

  Vegas how awesome!! I hope you have a blast, how could you not?

  Need anything? I would love a T-shirt from In-n-Out.....I have the Cali one, Arizona one and Nevada is the only state missing in my collection.

  Email me and I'll give you the pacticulars and send a check pronto.........hey you better not gamble with my money!! ;o)

  bc
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  The purpose of being a Witness?

  by bikerchic in

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  what is the purpose of being a jehovah's witness?

  i was always told it was to be a witness of jehovah, meaning you stood up for and defended your faith, your beliefs.

  i realize that this is a hard thing for some to do, it takes bravery, knowledge, faith and a convection that what you believe is right.

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  What is the purpose of being a Jehovah's Witness? I was always told it was to be a witness

  of Jehovah, meaning you stood up for and defended your faith, your beliefs. I realize that this is a hard thing for some to do, it takes bravery, knowledge, faith and a convection that what you believe is right. It was always easier for me to defend the rules, regulations, beliefs and so forth of the B'org to another witness than to someone who had never heard of JW's.

  My reason for this rant, and sorry it is going to be a rant has to do with the August Kingdom Ministry and the newest information on how to treat those who are D'fed, DA'ed or Apostate. None, of which I am, well at least Im not out on the Apostate thingy as of yet.

  I recently invited my son who is 30ish and DF'ed to live with me because he had a string of bad luck and found himself with basically no place to live. I love my son and have never turned my back on him from the beginning of his disfellowshipping, he has always been in my good favor, (major tug on the heart-strings) and I have always treated him the same as the rest of my kids, period.

  I work for my niece in her home one day a week babysitting her three girls and half a day cleaning her home. She is married, and her parents are what would be considered strong in the truth. Her father is an elder, and btw one of the few I really admire and he is very involved in her family, aka; he is worried that she and hubby wouldn't be a good dubbs otherwise, she and her hubby work for him in their family business as does all his kids. As did my DF'ed son as long as he could do his work from home and not work in the office.

  Well today my niece told me that she has enrolled the three girls in day care full time and that I wouldn't be needed to babysit anymore, but she still wanted me to clean her house. I honestly think this is due to the information in the August KM. Oh did I mention that I also clean the family business office once a week?

  The thing that has me upset, besides I will miss the kids, they are so sweet and I probably won't see much of them anymore, is that I honestly don't understand why she didn't just tell me that since I am not going to meetings anymore, or because I have a disfellowshipped person living with me I am not good association or whatever I am. I mean really where is the honesty in that, isn't it part of a good JW to try to bring the wrong doer back to the fold? Isn't that what being a witness of Jehovah is all about? And if you can't or won't talk to your own family how loving of a person are you? Is that Christian love? What's the purpose of going door to door and recruiting worldly persons when you wont even witness to your own family?

  I'll go back when pigs fly!

  bc :o\ of the dumb and confused class

  Edited by - bikerchic on 27 August 2002 22:14:6