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  Thank You Ray Franz.

  by Martini in

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  2. friends

  hello friends,.

  in a thread over at witnesses.net entitled "society bracing for law suits" fellow jw's are taking swipes at ray franz.

  not too long ago, while i was still under the wt spell i also would have similarily spoken abusively of ray.

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  Anchor - no kidding!

  Wiz - Exactly what books did YOU read? IF you read anything by Ray Franz - you will notice that he never tooted his own horn. He's as humble as they come and it's OBVIOUS in his style of writing. Ray never said or even inferred that he was an innovator of any group.

  When you state:

  I would like to know how all the references to sources names, people, events, times and places, seem all too perfect.

  ...this is too funny! If Ray Franz had misquoted or given any information in his book that wasn't correct, don't you think that the WTS would have filed a lawsuit against him? Their silence almost proves their guilt. I think the fact that RF is willing to share exact details, exact names, dates, and places took courage. IF it was incorrect, then he would've been in court years ago!

  Andi
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  Ritzville News /Deepthroat

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  tri-city herald.

  by shirley wentworth.

  ritzville - erica rodriguez and her mother, alejandra garza, broke down and cried when the verdict came in.. it took slightly less than four hours for a seven-man, five-woman adams county superior court jury to declare manuel beliz, 48, of othello guilty of two counts of first-degree child rape and two counts of first-degree child molestation.

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  Bill,

  Thank you so much! One little step like this can do so much to fight the war of abuse. You are such a blessing!

  Andi
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  This is for those of you who asked for my exp...

  by MrMoe 2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it's long, so take a deep breath!.

  ok, this is for those of you who wanted my life experience as a jw, so here goes.. i was born to a beautiful woman/mother who was abandoned by my biological father.

  my mother was raised as a jw and left in her teen years and turned to the baptist church as an adult.

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  (((Mr. Moe)))

  Thank you for sharing! It takes a lot of time, energy and courage to write down that history. Keep it up. It's very therapeutic!

  Andi
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  !ONE MORE ELDER FACING WTS EXECUTION Part II.!

  by exodus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after i came home last night i sat down to have dinner when five minutes later i received a phone call.

  i did not picked up the phone.

  then it rang again and refuse to answer it so i let the answering machine handle it.

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  You are a liar. You ARE afraid to say it. You only say it among your fellow apostates. If you weren't such a spineless weasel you would face your fellow elders and tell them that. Instead, you go aroung among the sisters slyly planting little seeds of doubt. That's because you are a cowardly apostate. If you were the man of courage and conviction and integrity that you pretend to be you wouldn't be hiding from the brothers behind locked doors.

  You Know,

  You mean have the courage and conviction and integrity like you do? Standing behind a moniker of You Know, with your email locked and never showing your true identity? Bwahahaha! You're too funny!

  Andi
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  Do bethelites get social security?

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just wondering you know whether in bethel workers get credited with whats called in britian national insurance.. in britian you carnt miss six years of payment and expect a full goverment pension which isn't much anyway.also you cant claim full income support , sickness benifit or job seekers allowence if you have missed or underpaid you ni.. this came to mind as my wife worked for a company that didn't pay contributions for her .. when latter on she lost her job the goverment wouldn't pay her any job seekers allowance as no ni contributions were credited for that year.. so does bethel pay ni contributions for bethelites and circuit overseers and the like.

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  If you're asking if the WTS gives the Bethelites a pension, the answer is no. It is my understanding that once they're through with the Bethelite, they're through with them. Can the retired Bethelite get a SS check from the government? Yes. Which is never enough to live on. It is so sad how these people have no money to retire on. They've spent their whole lives giving to an organization that will give them nothing in return. So glad I left with my youth!

  Andi
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  !ONE MORE ELDER FACING WTS EXECUTION Part II.!

  by exodus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after i came home last night i sat down to have dinner when five minutes later i received a phone call.

  i did not picked up the phone.

  then it rang again and refuse to answer it so i let the answering machine handle it.

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  Exodus,

  I'm sorry for the pain you're going through. You are stronger than you realize - hang in there! But you'll be in my prayers.

  Andi
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  Hi Again

  by tattoogrl333 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well the elders do not accept me.

  i do not fit the mold and nor will i change too.

  they asked for a book for me to see the questions answered for baptisim but they wouldn't give it to me because they have to decide if i can join???

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  Billygoat

  Hi Tattoogirl!

  I'm soo glad you're back! Your spirit and curiosity was so refreshing! I am honestly sad that you had that experience. But trust us when we say it is just a glimpse of what was to come. You are right - WHO ARE THEY to decide who may join? This isn't some kind of sorority or fraternity. But they sure treat you that way - hazing (a test of your loyalty to the organization) was always very subtle.

  Just seems like I wasted some time.

  Don't look at it as wasted time, sweetie! Just look at it as a moment of clarity! Haha! If you continue studying with your conductor, I understand. You make your decisions about this on your time.

  We're thrilled to have you back!

  Andi
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  What was Jesus???

  by Billygoat in

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  there were 3 equally good arguments that jesus was black: .

  1. he called everyone "brother" .

  2. he liked gospel .

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  Billygoat

  There were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Black:
  1. He called everyone "brother"
  2. He liked Gospel
  3. He couldn't get a fair trial.

  But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Jewish;
  1. He went into His Fathers business.
  2. He lived at home until he was 33.
  3. He was sure his Mother was a virgin and his mother was sure he was God.

  But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Italian:
  1. He talked with his hands.
  2. He had wine with every meal.
  3. He used olive oil.

  But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was a Californian:
  1. He never cut his hair.
  2. He walked around barefoot all the time.
  3. He started a new religion.

  But then there were 3 equally good arguments that Jesus was Irish:
  1. He never got married.
  2. He was always telling stories.
  3. He loved green pastures.

  But the most compelling evidence of all - 3 proofs that Jesus was a woman:
  1. He had to feed a crowd at a moment's notice when there was no food.
  2. He kept trying to get a message across to a bunch of men who just didn't get it.
  3. Even when he was dead, He had to get up because there was more work for Him to do.
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  Just got Home/Elder Dad just realized I'm Apostate

  by MrMoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, just got back from a big talk with my parents.

  i finally let them in on the fact that i question the society.

  (dad is an elder and mother has been in it for 67 years since birth.

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  MrMoe,

  I'm so sorry about this whole situation. Know I'm here to encourage and comfort as well. You can email me anytime you need: [email protected].

  But I do encourage you to share your 'testimony' on the personal experience board. I'd love to read it!

  Andi
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  Ritsfield Victory!

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hello everyone,.

  i am bill's wife.he just called me from washington and told me to let you all know that erica won her case today!.

  that sick child molesting bastard is in jail now as we speak.. his sentencing is set for september 24th i think.. one down many more to go.. thanks to all who have supported this cause.. sheila

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  waiting,

  You go girl. And that was not a hysterical response from an over-emotional rape/incest victim/survivor. It was from an old woman.

  Are you calling me old???

  Andi