I would live in a Winnebago and travel through North America. Then I could have my pick of the mountains AND the beaches.
Billygoat
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Where Would You Live?
by Stephanus inthought sparked by another thread where i said i'd move to the us if i won the lottery: if you could move wherever you liked in the world (in this fantasy, all your material, intellectual, emotional and spiritual needs are taken care of so that you can make this move), where would it be, and what would be the basis for your decision?.
q: how do you know a dub loyal to "jehovah's organisation" is lying?.
a: their lips are moving.
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New Economic System
by enricofrassinetti inhello logical.
i would want to give to you and to all you, a message a lot important, if i succeed to us.
from italy with to many siblings, we are inserting a new economic system in order to help the poor countries of the world.
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Billygoat
See Tina you're looking at it totally WRONG! I have a feeling that some of us could really have some fun with a GREASED brother! Hahaha!
(((TINA)))
Billygoat
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most embarrasing thing ever at a meeting ...
by alliwannadoislive inhey ... i'm just getting into the swing of this great 'apostasy' thing right ... ?
... i thought y'all out there might well have a story or two to tell, so ... plz tell me tell me tell me about the most embarrasing thing you ever saw at a meeting ...
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You guys are hilarious! This is an awesome thread! I'm so glad to know that our senses of humor are intact after our JW experiences.
Billygoat
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New Economic System
by enricofrassinetti inhello logical.
i would want to give to you and to all you, a message a lot important, if i succeed to us.
from italy with to many siblings, we are inserting a new economic system in order to help the poor countries of the world.
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Huh?
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Newbie in the house
by Stealth ini have been lurking for a few months now.
the only reason that i have not posted until now is because of the paranoia that comes with being raised a jw.
my current status in the congregation is irregular, reaching out for the office of inactive.
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Stealth and sleepy,
Warm welcome to both of you! You'll find some great chats and interesting people here. Beware of a cat named Fred! Nah - actually, his growl is much bigger than his bite! Looking forward to hearing more from you.
Billygoat
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Homeless "Pete"
by Billygoat inthere is a homeless man (ill call him pete) that stands on a street corner nearby my home.
hes been on this corner since i moved into this neighborhood almost 4 years ago.
a staple to our community really.
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There is a homeless man (I’ll call him Pete) that stands on a street corner nearby my home. He’s been on this corner since I moved into this neighborhood almost 4 years ago. A staple to our community really. And it’s a busy intersection, lots of traffic. He carries a little cardboard sign that reads, “Homeless – need help – God bless you for anything you can give me.” Pete always wears the same clothing – a dark pair of grimy jeans and an old, torn plaid shirt. Sometimes in the cold he will have an oversize army jacket over his clothing. Beneath his captain’s hat he has long white hair pulled into a ponytail in the back of his head. He has intense blue eyes that stand out against his grizzled face that is tan and weathered, like a sailor. I have seen those eyes close up several times, as I hand him my loose change or occasional spare dollar bill. Those eyes always twinkle at me as he takes my offering. Pete is always polite, friendly, and thankful for anything you give him, even if is just a few quarters. One time I even went to the market and bought him some bags of food. Which he took graciously and thankfully. It made me feel good to know that I’d helped him. I wanted him to know that there are kind and loving people out there. He probably sees so much coldness and apathy.
Usually, I’m at this intersection during peak rush hour, around 6 or so. Yesterday, things were a little different. I got off work late. I didn’t get to that corner until around 7 PM. As I was sitting there at the red light, I saw Pete take his ratty backpack and his sign and walk over to a nearby parking lot. He got into a fairly clean old model Chevy that wasn’t in very good shape and proceeded to drive away. I sat there for a moment just a little stunned. As I drove away from the light, I began questioning his claim. I questioned his honesty. Was he really homeless? Did he live in a shelter? Did he live in his car? Did he have children that were starving? Did he have a sweet hungry wife waiting somewhere? Or was he just a con artist trying to make an easy buck?
I know that there are con artists that do pose as homeless people. I’m sure some of them make a decent amount of money. But I also know there are people who are down on their luck and really need assistance. Face it, nobody WANTS to be homeless. Some homeless are there because of addictions and others are there because of making poor life choices. But my question is, “How do you know the difference?” My experience yesterday has left me shaken and confused. Maybe even a little disappointed. Unfounded disappointment perhaps, but it’s still there. Part of me still has compassion for this little man, but another part of me feels duped.
I write this right before I leave my office to go home tonight. I find myself asking more questions. Will Pete be there again? Will his white Chevy be in the nearby parking lot again? Do I ask him questions? Do I say something to the police? I’m not sure. I struggle with my anger and wanting to confront him, but then I also struggle with a desire to be compassionate and trust that he really needs help.
I guess I’m more relating my experience than anything, but if you have any input, I’d appreciate you sharing.
Billygoat
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One gay mans opinion
by jonjonsimons inpeace and love to everyone,.
the purpose of this post is not..let me repeat not to start a flame war, so as my mother use to tell me, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
ok so it doesn't have to be nice but please try and keep it civil.
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Jonjon,
I personally don't care that you're gay either. It is your life and I think you are the only one that can live it. So do it as you see fit. Please do not let people like Friday get under your skin. You're wasting time on somebody that will never understand what the meaning of "Christian love" is. I don't know what provokes him to be so unkindly, but be assured, there is a reason that we probably don't know.
Just know that you are loved on this board and that God loves you for your heart!
Billygoat
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To Joelbear With Love
by Maximus injoel, i want you to know i can think of no other poster who shows as much humanity, as much compassion and insight as you, particularly when it comes to the human condition.. thank you for sharing yourself and your journey so openly; i'm grateful for that.
you obviously have picked up many helpful tools in your recovery toolkit, and when you not only share them with us but show how to use them, how they can benefit us, we are the richer.. i need not say more, than that you are loved very much.. maximus.
who once in a while learns from joel a leeeetle more than he needed to, but what else is new?
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Joelbear,
You are a much bigger man than most could ever attain to be! And I'm not talking about the "bear" part either!
Love you bunches,
Billygoat
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To Joelbear With Love
by Maximus injoel, i want you to know i can think of no other poster who shows as much humanity, as much compassion and insight as you, particularly when it comes to the human condition.. thank you for sharing yourself and your journey so openly; i'm grateful for that.
you obviously have picked up many helpful tools in your recovery toolkit, and when you not only share them with us but show how to use them, how they can benefit us, we are the richer.. i need not say more, than that you are loved very much.. maximus.
who once in a while learns from joel a leeeetle more than he needed to, but what else is new?
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Friday,
Thank you for responding. But I question why you even bring the term "pacifist" into the picture. A person can be forthright and still not be rude. Which is NOT something I've seen in your posts. Pacifism doesn't have anything to do with what my question was. I will quote some of your meanspirited items:
One of the poorer excuses for a human being I've ever come across in my 62 years of life.
You dummy, you meant to say that "no one is paying any attention". But there's no surprise that you didn't get that right either, since you've never gotten anything else right before.
And, furthermore, get the hell off a board that you have no business on.
I'd rather stay here and slap around on you, you apostate jerk.
These are just quotes from the associated "homosexual/Joelbear" threads. If you'd like, I'll go back to other threads where your comments are even more rude and mean-spirited. Do you feel that these are just "forthright" or that they are "rude"? Can you really imagine Jesus Christ using these words on someone? Here I am an apostate reprimanding you for not acting like your own Lord, Jesus Christ! Please respond...
Curious...
Billygoat
PS: A few more questions...
1. Why do you come to this website?
2. Do the brothers know you are here?
3. Do you feel any guilt for NOT following the WTS standpoint on apostate websites?
4. What if I were a Christian here trying to figure out why NOT to leave the WTS? Perhaps one just needs encouragement to get back into the swing of things in the congregation and they witness your rude (ask anyone here as to the tone of your postings) comments and it keeps them from following the path back to the WTS? Your rudeness and callousness could be a stumbling block.Just a few more thoughts...
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How Long Did the Transition Take?
by troubled ini was wondering, for those of you who have left the organization, how long did the transition take?
i mean, how long after you left did you feel up in the air, in turmoil, lost, unsettled?
long long before you felt comfortable with the decision and basically happy with your life?
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troubled,
Along with the others, I agree that healing is a personal thing. I was DFed when I was 19. It took me years to pray, let along walk into a church. I was 25 when I started going to church again. It is there that I started my search. It's just recently (the last year or so) that I've realized that my relationship with God is not dependant upon what church I go to. Unlike others, I HAVE been very blessed with finding a church that encourages personal spiritual growth and treats me with respect. They have an attitude of "you can only help others if you are strong yourself. So first things first - you and God!"
But my growth works in phases. The first 6 years was absolutely agonizing. I guess I could describe myself as an agnostic. I didn't do anything, but everything JWs aren't allowed to do. But when I was 25 I finally settled down. I think if I'd gotten to that stage earlier, I would be where I am now earlier. Did that make sense???
But this last year has been a HUGE growth spurt for me. Spiritually, emotionally, and mentally. I am so thankful for those dark times because it really DOES make me appreciate the good times like now.
You can do it troubled. You will have a lot of support here. More than you realize. You'll find support from new friends you make at work and other community or social events. Be honest with them about where you're at. You'll be amazed at the compassion you find from "worldly" people. Many of us want to help and will do whatever we can to do so. You're in my prayers!
Love,
Billygoat