Thank you for the warm welcome.
I must confess that I've been here before--for a long time. Bin on H2O.
My former log-on doesn't work here since I activated this name (which I just kinda like for a name)--but that's okay, it's not important.
Salute!
~Bin
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Are you in Boise ID?
Me too!
We should hook up.
~Bin
Thank you. :-)
This is a pretty active site!
~Bin
my friend from my jw's days ran up to me on the street the other day and to my suprise he is no longer with the jw's.
it has been about 16 years since i last saw him.
he was a "devout" jw's and we used to "pioneer" together.
Yes.
I was a born-again denomination before I became a JW. I considered the WTS a step up from hell-fire doctrine. I still do.
Leaving it was another step up.
~Bintheredonethat
Just wondering?
The Trinity doctrine and Hell-Fire doctrine are definitely FALSE! That is two things the WTS was right about. (Course, they did not originate these premises.)
Most exJWs that I know do not support the Trinity and Hell-Fire doctrines.
Bintheredonethat
let me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
Billygoat:
It goes without saying that there are always exceptions--to everything. When you go to Las Vegas, its a known fact that some people win. But there are suicides from people who don't. Most of those didn't warn a lot of people before they jumped out a 10th story window.
I would again suggest you get a good book on co-dependency.
bin Adub
It is the theory which decides what we can observe.--Albert Einstein
let me explain.. firstly i have seen any number of so-called attempted suicides.
i've walked past an old girl friends house, seen her watching tv through the window, by the time i'm knocking on the door she's told me that she had her head in the gas oven and my knock stopped her.. my mother in law walks into the sea for a pastime.
every time she can't get her own way she walks in up to her knees and waits for someone to see her.
I agree with Englishman. Rather than a cry for help, it is invariably a cry for attention. Not unlike periodically announcing a farewell to this board, which works for its aim every time. That's how co-dependency works.
If a person truly intends to end their life, they are not likely to announce it to a big crowd of people, because they will not want interference, they will want to succeed. What they count on is that people, especially those who esteem themselves to be characteristically loving and compassionate, are very much inclined to feel responsible for what other people do. In a way, they are controllers themselves. "If I don't talk them out of it, and they kill themself, it will be my fault for not convincing them how loved and appreciated they are. Don't 'kick them when they are down'! "
In the words of one wiseman, 'Kick them when they are down, it gives them an incentive to get up.'
Read a book on co-dependency.
I've known some people who regularly go into depression, and yes attempt suicide periodically. I've known others who get surgery ever so often. Those I have known will make claims of "just want to be loved" or are not appreciated. They claim to be the ones who are always giving to others and loving others, when the fact is they are always trying to get attention. Don't overlook that they may really be trying to another perscription for vallium, or something like it, or an excuse to for another binge.
The average person does not realize it, but the worst thing you can do for people with this kind of affliction is to pamper them. They need to face reality. By succeeding to gain temporary affection with such manipulation, they bleed family and friends emotionally until they ultimately succeed in alienating them. When that happens, hopefully they will 'hit bottom' and start coming up. Like surgery for certain ailments, its not easy, and its painful, but necessary.
Of course such people have problems, and pain. Treating it is complex, not for amateurs.
bin Adub
It is the theory which decides what we can observe.--Albert Einstein
have any of you researchedthe origins of the practice of baptism?
as far as i can determine, there's no mention of it, much less as a requirement, in the torah or any of the old testament.. unless i'm missing something, it appears suddenly with john the baptist (oh, excuse me, wt lurkers, john the baptiser).. so then, if all of this is as it appears, then it's fair to conclude that the practice is of extra-biblical (as in ``pagan'' or ``heathen'') origins.
if true, then we have a fascinating example of how john, then jesus, appropriated a pagan custom because of its suitability as a symbol; in this case, of dying to a former life course and awakening to another.
This is just to unsubscribe my e-mail from being subscribed. I must have checked the wrong box below by mistake.
bin Adub
It is the theory which decides what we can observe.--Albert Einstein
have any of you researchedthe origins of the practice of baptism?
as far as i can determine, there's no mention of it, much less as a requirement, in the torah or any of the old testament.. unless i'm missing something, it appears suddenly with john the baptist (oh, excuse me, wt lurkers, john the baptiser).. so then, if all of this is as it appears, then it's fair to conclude that the practice is of extra-biblical (as in ``pagan'' or ``heathen'') origins.
if true, then we have a fascinating example of how john, then jesus, appropriated a pagan custom because of its suitability as a symbol; in this case, of dying to a former life course and awakening to another.
Baptising appears to have been regular part of the ritual of the Jewish sect of the Essenes (Dead Sea Scrolls). Scholars speculate that since John's parents were very aged when he was born, that they died early in his life. He should have followed his father to become a temple priest, but if he were orphaned at a young age, he might have been raised by others. That he came from the wilderness (where the Essenes resided) and practiced baptising, lends some credibility to this as well.
There were Essenes in northern Galilee (along with other sects like the Zealots) which influence seems to have been involved with Jesus' early ministry.
I have enjoyed some of your posts and would like to discuss something with you off-line if you would post me. [email protected]
bin Adub
It is the theory which decides what we can observe.--Albert Einstein
