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  Why ? Why? WHY???

  by rune in

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  this topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.

  i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.

  and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.

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  formerout

  Rune,

  Your true personality has become evident to most of the posters here. Your arrogance has become an irritation to those of us who originally became involved in this discussion for the primary reason of contributing to your own mental well-being.

  Despite your denial that I or anyone else can give you objective advice, there has in fact been a tremendous amount of GOOD advice put forward. Just because you want to take those well-intentioned thoughts and twist them into something negative doesn't mean that the authors of such thoughts have to do anything other than stand behind their true intention......... to honestly help you.

  I have "quit" very few things in my life. When my intention has been as genuine as mine has been in this post, quitting has been almost not even fathomable. However, I leave this topic feeling very sure of the fact that any good intention that I have had has been twisted so greatly that I no longer want to admit to the fact that I am the author of such thoughts.

  Your impression of me is so tainted that it really is NO part of who I really am.

  Brad
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  Why ? Why? WHY???

  by rune in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.

  i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.

  and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.

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  Rune,

  You said: I wish someone would actually try to crack me instead of just telling me I'll find out later or that I need to grow up more. If my logic is flawed, point out where.

  Ok, I'll try to explain where your logic is flawed. Google "Borderline Personality Disorder". Then OPEN-MINDEDLY read the signs of that disorder. Then let me know if any apply to you.

  P.S. No one is going to be able convince you that your opinion is somewhat flawed unless you are ready to perceive that it may in fact be flawed.

  Brad
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  What makes people really excel?

  by formerout in

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  i was just watching nightline (i think it was) with diane sawyer.

  the stars from ocean's twelve were on there.

  i am not a person who normally gives too much praise to celebs or athletes but these guys/gals (brad pitt, catherine zeta-jones, andy garcia, george clooney, matt damon and don cheadle) were pretty brilliant.

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  Logan's Run,

  Thanks for the reference to the book "Flow." I'll try to make it my next read,

  Shamus,

  Scientists, musicians, doctors and lawyers do coke too. Obviously not all of them, but some.

  I think the question has been answered already.

  I'm sure some do. I don't think the fact that a small percenteage of successful people do in fact do drugs has any relevance to the topic, but thanks for shedding more light on why some people will likely never succeed much with certain attitudes. Brad
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  "I noticed you are on a JW site, DID YOU KNOW I AM A JW?????"

  by Jez in

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  2. experiences

  i was at university the other night in the computer lab, cruising this site, well a fellow classmate who has been in my class since sept and we have become friends, walks past, looks at the site i am on and says, "i noticed you are on a jw site, did you know i am a jw, are you one?".

  i was shocked.

  i turned to him and let loose,.

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  formerout

  Jez,

  Good job. Hopefully he did take some of it to heart. If he's at the Univrsity he must be living at least a little bit on the JW edge.

  I live in London, Ontario. If you care to share the info (or in a PM) what part of Canada are you in?

  Brad
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  Why ? Why? WHY???

  by rune in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.

  i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.

  and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.

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  Rune,

  Holy shit, buddy. You said this to Little toe, in your second commentary:

  No words cause any harm; it is the reaction of the recipient that determines whether harm is taken or given out. These things can be controlled if the person is mature and disciplined enough. I am, are you?

  Yet YOU have taken great offense to people's words even when they are just trying to allow you to see it in a different light. WOW!!

  I am reminded of the saying, "He knows not what he is saying." Your "reaction" has been one of insults and condescention. Look at yourself before you accuse others of being of less than you. Quite often the accuser is proven to be the one with the greatest character flaws.

  Brad
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  Why ? Why? WHY???

  by rune in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this topic has been rolling around in my head for some time.

  i don't expect that i'll write it perfectly as it needs to be articulated in different ways for different people...but i will do my best.

  and worst of all, i am not expecting any kind of response that will satisfy me.

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  formerout

  Rune,

  I started reading your reply to everyone and got half-way through your comment to Little Toe and felt I needed to make a comment.

  Don't believe that age is a factor in anybody's opinion of your comments. Sometimes recognizing your age is a "polite" way to disagree with your opinions. I have learned more from my children than I ever learned from my parents, and my kids are much younger than you.

  Most people on this forum are not here to piss you off or tell you that you are wrong. However you might get pissed off at them even though they didn't intend to make you feel that way. YOU are in control of your feelings. IMO, your basic feelings seem to be anger and hate.

  Like I said in a previous post, vent away my friend, but don't expect others here to be as angry as you seem to be.

  In order to help you out things into perspective in your life it may do you well to read through this post: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/80403/1.ashx

  This is all meant to be said in a positive, helpful way and I hope that you find some meaningful answers to what you are searching for.

  Brad
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  What makes people really excel?

  by formerout in

  1. jw
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  i was just watching nightline (i think it was) with diane sawyer.

  the stars from ocean's twelve were on there.

  i am not a person who normally gives too much praise to celebs or athletes but these guys/gals (brad pitt, catherine zeta-jones, andy garcia, george clooney, matt damon and don cheadle) were pretty brilliant.

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  formerout

  Ok, since some here seem to not be able to get beyond the Bill Gates' "Excel" and Office success, although none have decided to say why he has become who he is, the topic will now be entitled: "What makes people achieve greater things than all the others who want the same success?"

  Brad
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  GOT A LITTLE STORY TO TELL YA.

  by outoftheorg in

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  my wife and i live in a rather small town.

  around 5500 residents and about another 2 to 3 thousand on the outskirts.. we have a very good hospital here, considering the size of the county and residents.. my wife is a nurse and now is the office mgr.

  of the home health dept.. it seems that there is no end to the several things the hospital is involved in that call for volunteers.

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  Outoftheorg,

  I know exactly what you mean. When I was younger I always felt that I was not being fair to others. I mean, we couldn't buy Girl Guides cookies for Pete's sake. The JW's perceive themselves to be all kind and loving while they are in the org., however if/when we leave we see the real picture.

  Good for your town to take in this unfortunate person into your collective hearts and homes.

  Brad
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  What makes people really excel?

  by formerout in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just watching nightline (i think it was) with diane sawyer.

  the stars from ocean's twelve were on there.

  i am not a person who normally gives too much praise to celebs or athletes but these guys/gals (brad pitt, catherine zeta-jones, andy garcia, george clooney, matt damon and don cheadle) were pretty brilliant.

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  formerout

  Ok, a new thought....one thing that is sure to PREVENT someone form excelling is negative thought like this:

  It's they're looks. It's the coke that many of them do. That's what makes them excel. Cocaine gives you confidence.

  The question included, not only actors, but scientists, musicians, authors, many of whom have never been good-looking nor done cocaine.

  Shamus, I will agree that self-confidence plays a part, but respecting other people is as important as respecting ourselves.

  Brad
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  Should I teach my kids about Santa Claus? (Lie vs. Harmless Fantasy)

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  my wife and i got on a discussion about something i never would've guessed we'd need to.

  she wants to teach our new baby about santa claus, easter bunny, & tooth fairy, but i don't.

  of course, as witnesses we never would have taught that, and i have to acknowledge that i may only be reasoning using that old set of values.. i don't want to look into my kid's eyes and tell her something that i know for a fact isn't true.

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  formerout

  Scully said,

  The thing about Santa Claus is that he is claimed to give things to children that they want. And JWs only want their children to believe in the fictional character "Jehovah" to give them everything they want: like Living Forever in Paradise on Earth?; like being able to have their very own pet lion or pet giraffe in the New System?, like never being sick, or having loved ones come back from the dead. And JW kids have to be impeccably good, otherwise Jehovah will kill them at Armageddon. Santa only gives out lumps of coal to the bad kids, but he doesn't kill people like Jehovah does.

  Excellent point!! The JW's teachings seem to be so positive (Paradise Earth) but the opposite is so negative that it is truly fear and guilt that keeps them loyal. It's not the love or positive influence.

  I'd rather have my children raised believing in positive fantasy than in negative reality.

  Brad