Posts by formerout

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The WTBTS's proactive steps at preventing child molestation.

by formerout in

brobennett, you made this comment in another post:.

breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion.

by the way, brobennett, do you have kids?.

formerout

BroBennett, you said:

Since you want the Bible's viewpoint I will try to list many scriptural information for our viewers and debaters alike.

No I do not want the Bible's viewpoint. I never said I did. There are too many ways to interpret the very same texts. Please answer the questions as they are asked. The fact of the matter is that some people have a sickening, unnatural desire to do this sort of stuff to kids, much like other people get other diseases that are either cured or prevented from affecting other people. A lot of pedophiles even admit that they are happy that they are prevented from being around kids, since they have trouble controlling themselves. The topic is: The WTBTS' proactive steps at preventing child molestation." Please keep it on that.

A quote you made from the Watchtower:

Just in the area of sexuality alone, think of the heartache and suffering that result when there is no respect for God?s law on morality: broken homes, illegitimate pregnancies, abortions, rape, child molestation, and sexually transmitted diseases, just to list a few things.

This is one of my points about the WTBTS. They include broken homes with child molestation and rape. I am speechless, to be honest about that one.

Brad

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The WTBTS's proactive steps at preventing child molestation.

by formerout in

brobennett, you made this comment in another post:.

breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion.

by the way, brobennett, do you have kids?.

formerout

BroBennett,

With all due respect, there are too many differences of opinion as to which religion is God's chosen one. This discussion is not about that. After reading the first part of your post, I felt the need to remind you that this discussion is about what the WTBTS is doing to prevent child molestation.

All here want to know what positive steps are being taken by your organization to follow along with your claims made in the other topic. Please keep to the question as it is asked. Thanks

Brad

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The WTBTS's proactive steps at preventing child molestation.

by formerout in

brobennett, you made this comment in another post:.

breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion.

by the way, brobennett, do you have kids?.

formerout

under74,

Is BroBennett another attempt at Brownboy to slide in as an objective poster? I am not aware that he is for certain. I am trying to take BroBennett's claims as being genuine. As much as we may dislike the WTBTS, I think all of us would be happy to see evidence of them doing more to prevent these heinous acts, in order to protect better the next generation.

Brad

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The WTBTS's proactive steps at preventing child molestation.

by formerout in

brobennett, you made this comment in another post:.

breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion.

by the way, brobennett, do you have kids?.

formerout

I forgot to mention that this is not just directed to BroBennett. Anybody who has thoughts on their proactive approach in preventing it, feel free to make your comments.

I guess, to be fair, any people that have evidence to the contrary of their proactive steps should be free to express their thoughts as well. I'll reserve my comments until a little later on.

Brad

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The WTBTS's proactive steps at preventing child molestation.

by formerout in

brobennett, you made this comment in another post:.

breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion.

by the way, brobennett, do you have kids?.

formerout

BroBennett, you made this comment in another post:

Breeding pedophiles are more common in other religions since they are kept in circulation and not taken out of the religion. There are many disfellowshiped ones that are taken out of Jehovah's organization for a reason.

Can you please let me know the basis for your comment mentioned above? What other religions are more common for breeding pedophiles? Why do you feel that is? What is your religion doing to prevent people from allowing pedophiles into your religion? What are you doing to remove them?

I have heard stories where disfellowshipped pedophiles are allowed back in to your religion? Is that true? If so, does having them "taken out of Jehovah's organization" do any good if they are allowed back in after?

I have seen television programs where pedophiles have admitted that they want to be prevented from being around kids because they know that they are a danger to the kids, but that they can't control their desires. Since these pedophiles admit this themselves, what is your organization doing to make sure that they are in fact prevented from endangering the children?

Thanks in advance for your answers BroBennett. It would be good for all us to have our minds at ease, should we want to become involved in your religion.... at least for those who are not right now. A lot of us have kids and we care about their welfare greatly.

By the way, BroBennett, do you have kids?

Brad

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

formerout

BroBennett,

Thank you for the idea of starting a topic on child molestation and how the WTBTS is working at preventing it. I am very interested in finding out information on proactive steps that your organization is taking to prevent it.

The topic will be entitled "The WTBTS's proactive steps at preventing child molestation." For now it will be in the "Child Abuse" area of the forum. I hope you can convince me that it should be changed to "Friends" or "Family" section. I really, really do hope you can convince me that a change is deserved.

I invite you to be fully involved in the discussion.

Brad

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What sports are considered violent and forbidden by Jehovah?

by jwbloodline in

i'm a bible student and the i've been told that this issue depends on my conscience.. .

i am a jiu jitsu student and have been for a 4 years.

it's more of a sport.

formerout

BroBennett,

Big Tex spoke of horrific things that happened to him. I'll forget about going into detail about how screwy your opinion is on how much the JW's "prevent" these actions. Others here are more adept at it (and besides I have to go play hockey, if that's OK with you?.. lol).

But one of your comments especially perturbed me:

Don't forget that Satan attacks children since they are less experienced. This is so true with teenagers as well.

This comment makes me want to puke. Instead of actually doing anything to comfort him or explain how you take steps personally to prevent these terrible things from happening, you blame it on Satan. That is one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard. These acts are COMPLETELY beyond any responsibility of a child. Regardless of our difference of opinion on the existence of Satan, how can you ever suggest that something so horrific be blamed on Satan.

It's this sort of logic that people use to show how you not only protect but also BREED paedophiles. Your religion disgusts me.

Brad

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WTS in Germany at court again

by GermanXJW in

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there was a new appointment at court for the wts in germany again in the case that lasts for 14 years by now: the jw want to get recognition as a public corporation.

(btw, in the 60s they said this status is against their beliefs.

now, the judge suggested that the jw are granted the status but they have to denie some of the benefits like having church taxes collected by the authorities and no public status for their ministers.

formerout

GermanXJW,

Fourteen years and Jehovah STILL hasn't solved that problem for them yet? Wow!

Brad

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"New system" questions

by JustTickledPink in

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do you remember all the hype about the "paradise" and then the natural questions that followed that no one has answers to... like,.

"will we have cars in the new system?

" - uh, well jehovah will provide us with whatever we need.

formerout

It's interesting when you look at what if the JW's gave the opposite answers to what they currently use. Case in point:

What if, in the new system, after the resurrection, you could be reunited with your partner, rather than the resurrested not having a desire to hook up again? It's just as logical as them losing their desire, but I could just see the fights.... whoa!!! Imagine this scenario:

After the resurrection, Sister Firstwife says, "Sister Secondwife, what in heavens are you doing with my husband?! When I was married to him I was not allowed to give him a blowjob. Brother PresidingOverseer, this is just not fair. Of course he's gonna want her now.... she's had ten years of practicing that stuff on him. If you hadn't changed your rules we could have an even opportunity to win him over."

Brother Husband's eyes widen as he anticipates that perhaps Brother PresidingOverseer will allow him to choose between the two and reap all the "benefits" that would go along with that.

Brother PresidingOverseer says, "Now Sister Firstwife, your husband had the opportunity to wait for you, but he chose not to. We abide by the laws that were passed before the New System came. Your death was the only justified reason for him to remarry. Sister Secondwife is now legally his wife."

Sister Firstwife is really pissed, as she remembers always hearing that the New System would end all of Satan's laws. Brother Husband is a little upset as well since, although he was too afraid to ask it before Armageddon, for fear or being disfellowshipped, he thought he would get the chance to choose.

So many completely illogical things that are impossible for the JW's to answer because their teachings are illogical and impossible. I hope I didn't offend anyone, just felt like playing the devils' advocate..... feel free to imagine the perks for yourselves too ladies, in your own scenarios.

Brad

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What is your most ridiculous example of shunning?

by Poztate in

formerout started a thread about being shunned.... this triggered something in me that i guess i really wanted to forget about.

how ridiculous do you get with shunning?.

sorry to min or others if this has been talked about.. mine came with the pre 1975 panic to come back to the "truth"before it was too late.. i signed up again in 1970...what a dummy.. my mother was dfed so that meant that i had to shun her.

formerout

I've got one that is a little odd, methinks. It's got a little twist to it.

My dad was df'd when he left my mom for another woman when I was 12. A year later he started coming back to the meetings and insisted that I sit with him at the KH, despite the fact that this was the only time he spent with me.

I kind of felt betrayed by my mom and the elders. I hated him. He had left my mom. Worse, he had left us kids. Besides that, he was a very mean and angry person that I felt greatly intimidated by.

Why the hell should I have had to sit with him, when no one else in the congregation even looked at him? I felt that I should be allowed to shun him like everybody else.

He got reinstated about a year later. After that it still sucked but it didn't seem so twisted. Fortunately, about a year after getting reinstated he took off again with the same woman. Peace at last.

Brad, of the "I better bring this up to the therapist when I get one" class.