Posts by bj

While checking on the UN in the WTS publication I came across a strange debate that is reported in the AWAKE!-May 8, 1987,p. 29 about drinking-water jugs. This reminded me in Funny Elders Meeting moments. Some ask the question what do the Elders discuss and in what spirit are they conducted?

During an Elders Meeting that took place in Malta (Fgura Congregation), the debate became so heated that the Service Overseer took of his shoe and throwed it to another.

The Body of Elders of the Valetta Congregation (also in Malta), had on their Agenda, whether brothers should wear socks at the meeting. (When I was at school it was a must, so for me this topic seemed ridiculus).

Looking foward to hear yours.

Joe

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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

by MacHislopp in

following the link given by kent,.

i have several observation to make:.

(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

bj

In their book JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES - PROCLAIMERS OF GOD'S KINGDOM,(1993), they stated in its Foward: "The editors of this volume have endeavored to be objective and TO PRESENT A CANDID HISTORY." When speaking about the UN in pages 192 and 193, one can observe that here their objective once again wasn't achieved because they didn't told their readers that since 1991 they are an NGO and therefore according to their own words became "a friend of the world".
What a bunch of HYPOCRITES who without shame dare to insult us "apostates"!!!

Joe

501

UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

by MacHislopp in

following the link given by kent,.

i have several observation to make:.

(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

bj

Another area to be checked is about a meeting that took place from the 28-30 August 2000, at the UN headquarters, and see if the WTS were among other religions who signed a special document. For further information see: The Watchtower - 15 March 2001, p32.

Joe

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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS

by MacHislopp in

following the link given by kent,.

i have several observation to make:.

(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).

bj

Thanks for this important information which will continue shaking sincer members and help them open their eyes and see who really are the HYPOCRITES.

We're also spreading the news in France.

You can find the name of Ciro Aulicino on a list dated 15/8/2000
http://www.freeminds.org/bethel/writing_dept.htm

Joe

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Is there proof WTS owns shares in weapons?

by bluesapphire in

jw
friends

i would like to see proof of this rand corp stuff.

can anyone direct me?

i will be discussing this with a friend soon and wanted to make sure it's not hype.

bj

Mustang,

Thank you for your very interesting information. My question is, as REGI contribute to military purpose, then why the WTS accepted the shares? I don't believe they do so without checking all the information!
And don't you think ALL JW members should know how THEIR money is being used instead of learning things from outside source!!!

Joe

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Is there proof WTS owns shares in weapons?

by bluesapphire in

jw
friends

i would like to see proof of this rand corp stuff.

can anyone direct me?

i will be discussing this with a friend soon and wanted to make sure it's not hype.

bj

WATCHTOWER CONNECTION

Jehovah's Witnesses in their book Revelation - Its Grand Climax is at Hand! (1988) p. 264, par. 21, stated: "In contrast, Babylonish religion often has unsavory links with big business. For example, in 1987 the Albany Times Union reported that the financial administrator of the Catholic archdiocese of Miami, Florida, U.S.A., admitted to the church's owning stocks in companies that make nuclear weapons, R-rated movies, and cigarettes."

Doing so, they forget the following Biblical principal: "Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother's eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Allow me to extract the straw from your own eye'; when, look! a rafter is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First extract the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to extract the straw from your brother's eye." - Matthew 7: 3-5 NWT.

Professor M. James Penton, in his book Apocalypse Delayed page 230, wrote: "The society [WTS] has regularly invested money in stocks for some years. In Rutherford's day stock markets were regarded negatively as part and parcel of greedy, industrial capitalism or big business. But since the judge's death his successors have become far more sympathetic to capitalism and see no reason why they should not invest savings in stock markets. Yet because most ordinary Witnesses still regard the stock markets as part of this 'doomed old world,' the society is very careful not to let the faithful know much about such financial activities. Only under sharp questioning from a few of their concerned brethren have Witness officials occasionally done so. It is easy to tell that this is happening though from statements in the society's literature which tactfully suggest that investing in stocks is perfectly moral." (see for example Awake! 22 October 1961, pp. 21-22; 8 February 1962, pp. 21-23; 8 October 2000, pp. 25-27)

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Watchtower Society own Bomb Factory???

http://www.machynlleth.freeserve.co.uk/wts_bombfactory.htm

(This site gives the reader a first brief glance on the topic.)

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RAND CAM ENGINE CORP (RCEC)

owned by: 50% Watchtower Society
34% James McCann
16% Misc.

RAND ENERGY GROUP INC (REGI)

owned by: 51% REG Technologies Inc.
49% Rand Cam Engine Corp.

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http://www.tenkwizard.com/filing.php?repo=tenk&ipage=176646&num=9&exp=watchtower&doc=1&g=
(if it's not a 9 try g)

(The above site confirm that REGI is 49% owned by RCEC, which RCEC is 50% owned by the WTS. And 34% by James McCann who donated the previous 50% to the WTS)

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http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/922330/0001085037-00-000333.txt

(go under: SECURITY OWNERSHIP OF CERTAIN BENEFICIAL OWNERS AND MANAGEMENT. Once again this site proof the WTS owns 50% in RAND CAM ENGINE CORP. and which owns 49% of REGI)

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http://www.secinfo.com/dVgzt.51xv.htm

(This site is about REGI. If you go under: PRODUCTS it gives you information about James McCann's involvment such as 20 October 1986 or 30 August 1983. It shows also that the company is involved in producing RC/DC.

Reading further down under DIESEL ENGINE (June 21, 1999) you find this interesting statement: "This engine [RC/DC] is being designed as a general purpose power plant for military and commercial applications."

Under: MARKETING it continue: "The company's current objective is to complete and test the compressor and diesel engine prototypes. Based on the successful testing, the prototypes will be used for presentation purposes to potential license and joint venture partners. The company will be making presentations to the military which could result in additional government funding if the diesel engine prototype meets with its approval."

Under AGGREGATE OPTION EXERCISES IN LAST FISCAL YEAR ... item ii, shows that the WTS who is the third share holder owns 5,367,900 and James McCann who is the fourth share holder same amount. It dates 31 July, 2000 which confirms at least till this date the WTS shares .

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Ted Jaracz in France?

by bj in

jw
friends

on the 16th august, maximus asked the question: "wasn't gb member ted jaracz present at this convention?

his assistant said he was in france.".

from my checking here in france, jaracz wasn't in bordeaux, lyon, and seems neighter in paris.

bj

biblexaminer,

As I said, about the convention of Paris I wasn't sure. But some JW's who were present in Lyon and Bordeaux told me "he wasn't there" and that no reference was made concerning his visit.
But if your friend is sure that Jaracz was in Paris, then Maximus would have obtained an answer. And perhaps the Assistant of Jaracz didn't LIE as James N. Pellechia (Director of Public Affairs Office)did.

In a letter dated January 8, 1999, Pellechia stated concerning "free choice" and I quote: "The Document that govern the relationship between Bulgaria and Jehovah's Witnesses do not include this ["free choice"] or a similar statement."

Joe

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Ted Jaracz in France?

by bj in

jw
friends

on the 16th august, maximus asked the question: "wasn't gb member ted jaracz present at this convention?

his assistant said he was in france.".

from my checking here in france, jaracz wasn't in bordeaux, lyon, and seems neighter in paris.

bj

Room 215,

No, Chasson said he had to check with his friends (which my wife and I, are part of).
You might have tought so as the question was brought up in one of his post concering the "suicide" of a french Circuit Overseer, Eric Renard, which was found death the day after his convention talk.

Joe

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Ted Jaracz in France?

by bj in

jw
friends

on the 16th august, maximus asked the question: "wasn't gb member ted jaracz present at this convention?

his assistant said he was in france.".

from my checking here in france, jaracz wasn't in bordeaux, lyon, and seems neighter in paris.

bj

On the 16th August, Maximus asked the question: "Wasn't GB member Ted Jaracz present at this convention? His Assistant said he was in France."
From my checking here in France, Jaracz wasn't in Bordeaux, Lyon, and seems neighter in Paris. If he was in France, I wonder where!!! (True, from what Maximus wrote his assistant didn't precise that he went for the International Convention). But could it be this Assistant like other secretaries was told to LIE when answering phone calls? Thus Bulgaria vs WTS remind you in something?

Joe