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  IQ tests

  by Dawn in

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  have you ever taken an iq test?

  i just did one for school - pretty interesting kind of test.

  i scored a 134 .

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  The tests measure aptitudes in categories differentiated by notable psychologists. I'm way too tired to go into that right now though....

  Intelligence scores are an overall calculation but there are underlying scores for each category to show the strengths and weaknesses of someone's mind. The real problem faced in the credibility of aptitude tests is whether (1) whether the test is [culturally] biased, (2) whether the material given really does effectively serve as a measure of someone's aptitude in that category and (3) whether the measurements of the responses given can be quantified in a manner that reflects intelligence properly. In other words, the subjective approach of a corner in the psychological community decides what the best measure of intelligence is based on their experiences and education, rather than just any old guy. Nonetheless this doesn't mean they're right, but it does lend a bit more weight to IQ tests rather than just saying they're no good without really specifying why...
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  Depression & Jehovah's Witnesses

  by minimus in

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  is it me or does it seem that nearly all jws go through depression in varying ways??

  i'm not talking about what the average person could deal with because of a loss of a loved one or a job termination, etc.

  i'm referring to being depressed because you're a jehovah's witness.

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  Yes, it began with my parents, ridden with debt and constantly bombarbed by requests from the Elders to up production - er, service hours and meeting attendance - when all they wanted was a little time to rest and regroup. Soon enough, like an infectious disease, the ugly depression took hold of my brother and I as we grew into adolescence.

  There could be a bit of hereditary factors involved there but I have seen an awful lot of the same thing in people I've known in the organization...then again, perhaps statistically, depressed people join the Witnesses, even if they don't know they are yet (or if it's hereditary, it hasn't surfaced yet).
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  THE WATCHTOWER HOW LONG DO YOU GIVE IT ????????????

  by vitty in

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  now wishful thinking is different from the facts, but in our age of technology, which is pretty new!.

  how long do you think the wts got before the "truth" is out ?

  ( i hope its soon).

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  Never.

  Why?

  Because for everyone that leaves, more gullible / depressed / lost people are suckered into the cult to replace them. It's sad but, I don't think the Witnesses are ever going to go away. And if there's anything important we should do in life, it's learn from our mistakes - wishing things away won't make a difference. Then again, in places like Russia, we might see a complete ban of the Witnesses in time because of the strong influence of the Russian Orthodox church. Nonetheless, even if the Witnesses were to disappear, there would still be other religious organizations that do the same thing around.

  Some people are just sheep looking to be herded around...
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  IQ tests

  by Dawn in

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  have you ever taken an iq test?

  i just did one for school - pretty interesting kind of test.

  i scored a 134 .

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  rune

  We briefly covered intelligence tests in intro psych..

  Basically, the scoop is that on-line IQ tests are 99% bogus, as real IQ tests are protected and owned by companies who don't want just anyone getting their hands on them. As for the accuracy of IQ tests, the most accurate IQ test I know of to date is the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale (WAIS)...for children, it's the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children (WISC). Something to note about child IQ tests is that they are compared to the average intelligence score of children of the same chronological age to determine if the child's development is above or below normal development. With adult testing this comparison isn't made quite in the same way. Adult testing is considered very accurate...but always remember, psychology is under constant revision, as should be any scientific field of study that uses empirical data to draw conclusions. Personally I am beginning to disfavor psychology in terms of a 'real' science...but I won't get into that, too off-topic. :)
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  When you returned to your "WORLDLY" family how were you treated?

  by wizedup in

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  when we leave the witness "family" we know how inhumanly we're treated.

  when some return, there is no rejoicing, clapping or undue expressions of "joy" allowed openly.

  the gb wants a period of proving yourself worthy to be back in the "fold".

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  Your story just exemplifies what a twisted cult the JWs are.

  Any organization that encourages the choice of an idea (God) or an ideal (service to the faith for a better life later on) over family values is just wrong.
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  w0000000000t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by doodle-v in

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  i didn?t want to post anything about this until i knew for sure (you know, don?t count your chickens before they hatch and all that.).

  and i?m not one to toot my own horn.

  so now that i know for sure now i?m just really excited and i wanted to share it with you all.

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  sweet! nice one congrats
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  Giving account to God

  by JH in

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  if one day, you had to give account to god for your spiritual inactivity, what would you say?

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  First I'd say, "God, why am I talking to you? After all I know you're just made up in my head."

  Then I'd shrug and remember the chance of there being a God is filed away in the countless possibilities of what could be in this universe...not even worth considering over others, just because lots of people believe in him doesn't really add weight to the idea. Lots MORE people are hindus and buddhists, but you don't see me adopting their ideas as my own either
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  Anti-Aging- THIS IS FANTASTIC!

  by metatron in

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  if the link doesn't work, go to lef.org and click on the 'methusaleh prize" story.. if this experiment passes critical review, it will revolutionize scientific thinking about aging.

  the last vestiges.

  of pessimism will be blown away!

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  Look at the bottom...not evaluated by the FDA. Believing this is like believing a Watchtower magazine, who knows what's true?

  Heck they even have their own magazine hyping anti-aging. Not-for-profit, yeahhh right...
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  Anyone raised a Witness and broke free?

  by rune in

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  hello, my name's daniel and i'm new to the forum.... i was raised a witness for the first 14 years of my life and then finally got out when my dad turned atheist...i live in ottawa, ontario of canada... i'm 21 now... still kind of unaccustomed to the world at large, if you catch my drift.

  my msn is [email protected] if anyone wants to chat.

  nice meeting you all

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  Wow! Thank you all for your replies. I never expected such a warm welcome from so many in such a short time.

  I feel admiration for all of you who have realized what a horrible cult the JWs are (despite many of the members being good, though gullible, people). My condolences and pity to those of you who have personally been victimized and have seen their loved ones hurt by this organization.

  Just to clarify, as I have been out of the organization for 7 years now, I have had a strong stance on what a strange and life-draining cult the Witnesses are. In fact, I just recently did a presentation to one of my classes at the university I attend on the darker side of the Witnesses. It's in PowerPoint format, and uses scans of Witness literature picture as the most effective method of conveying just how messed up the Witnesses really are. Honestly, cleansing the world of its problems with mass genocide! How disgusting...

  As for the feelings of adjustment to regular life, perhaps it roots from emotional problems or simply my own journey through childhood in the Witnesses - part of those feelings may never go away, but to see the brighter side of it, I have a pretty objective perspective when it comes to analyzing the things people do, Witness or not. Whether this is actually a useful endeavour is another question, but hey, everyone has their interests. Anyway.. ;)

  Thanks again and I hope you all are doing well
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  Anyone raised a Witness and broke free?

  by rune in

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  hello, my name's daniel and i'm new to the forum.... i was raised a witness for the first 14 years of my life and then finally got out when my dad turned atheist...i live in ottawa, ontario of canada... i'm 21 now... still kind of unaccustomed to the world at large, if you catch my drift.

  my msn is [email protected] if anyone wants to chat.

  nice meeting you all

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  rune

  Hello, my name's Daniel and I'm new to the forum...

  I was raised a Witness for the first 14 years of my life and then finally got out when my Dad turned atheist...I live in Ottawa, Ontario of Canada... I'm 21 now... still kind of unaccustomed to the world at large, if you catch my drift

  My MSN is [email protected] if anyone wants to chat

  nice meeting you all