I do fondly remember her. Thank you so much for letting us know. I can't believe she has been gone for well over a year.My heartfelt condolences to you.
Posts by steve2
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by Ex-Witless inhello forum.
my aunt, flyinghighnow, has passed away.
i don't know if you remember her, but she was a long time member.
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WT study 8 December
by road to nowhere inhad to look.
first paragraph mentions that most of were probably born after 1914. most?
i bet the dubs 105 and older can be counted on your fingers..
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steve2
WERE you born after the year 1914? If so, you have lived your entire life during “the last days” of the present system of things. (2 Tim. 3:1)
Paragraph proves that only the stupidest of minds now write for the Watchtowere. And, of course, not one word about the millions who were born after the year 1914 and have since died of very old age.
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Why are the Jehovah's Witness Tennis players allowed to "serve two master"?
by I_love_Jeff injw broadcasting sept 2019 issue commentary.
according to the jw in the sept 2019 episode, the ukrainian soccer player andriy nesmachniy (go to 1:04:14 in the video) "abandoned" his career for jehovah????
he retired at 32 years old, the normal retirement age among soccer players.
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steve2
Look what I've given up for Jehovah! Am I not good and worthy?!
Most of the JWs I know who have 'given up" worldly careers and goals were 'over the hill" and/or on a downward spiral anyway but astutely reframed it publically as giving up worldly pursuits.
One of my acquaintances was a professionally trained opera singer who derived much pleasure in telling anyone who would listen all about what he gave up for "the truth". I was to later learn from a reliable "inside" source that he had not been successful in his application to undergo advanced tuition/training with one of the "masters" because he didn't have what it takes to keep advancing. So he was already on the way out when he made the decision to 'put the kingdom first'. That happens in life - and I feel for anyone in that position.
However, strange - or perhaps not - that he never shared that particular tidbit with listeners - the whole story changes.
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2019-11-25-BOE--Watchtower Wants More Money!
by Atlantis in2019-11-25-boe.
donations in support of kingdom interests worldwidehttps://docdro.id/mqpxklf petra!
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"Get Over It!"
by The Bethelite inthis is what my children tell me... get over the whole jehovah's witness thing!
yes, they tell me they have gotten over the whole thing and they tell me that and i need to also.
my exgirl friend who was raised as a jw also has said the same thing.. my children say they got over it, however they are quick to point out how messed up their lives are now because of no college education and other missed opportunities.
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steve2
Our kids can be our harshest critics and appreciate the least what we have done. You can always hold out the silent hope that one day they will realize if you could just get over it, you would have by now. Anyway, there could be a grain of truth in what they say - but even if there is, getting over something is not a matter of willing it to happen.
My loved ones have occasionally said variations on "get over it" to me but I also have a good sense of my own situation and realize not everyone - even from the vantage of being an exJW - feels the same way as me.
All I can recommend is you graciously thank them for their feedback but also acknowledge to yourself that we are all individuals who have been affected in different ways by our connection to the organization. My view is the more devastating impacts we have witnessed and observed in the organization, the harder it is to "get over it". But over time, we might manage better our expectations of others (drop the wish that they will read your book) and respond in healthier ways to your own pain and suffering.
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What can a therapist really do?
by Thetruthhurts inhi all, i've not read the forums for awhile as i've been trying to move on with my life but i'm back and posting for the first time feeling like i cant get a grip.
so i'm wondering for those of you that have seen a therapist and say that it truly helps, what can be accomplished?
i'm just really skeptical, but starting to feel desperate.
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steve2
Great question.
Here's my answer as a clinical psychologist (and ex-JW):
A well-trained and experienced therapist can teach relevant skills on how to effectively handle distress and regulate your emotions (instead of feeling overwhelmed and hypervigilant all the time), or help you process, better understand and resolve what you've been through, or teach practical, step-wise problem solving.
It depends on what you're immediate needs are and what the therapist offers. In my view, it helps if the therapist has some understanding of the harm caused by high control religious groups but if the therapist has been well trained - especially in the area of trauma - they will be able to help you.
On the other hand, I'd avoid like the plague therapists who simply offer counselling because while it may provide some (short term) relief to talk through your problems unless you learn strategies and new behaviours, "talking things through" is seldom effective in the long term for moving beyond traumatic experiences and finding a way to develop healthy life goals.
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The infamous WT article "Why Has God Been So Patient?"
by days of future passed ini went to my sister's house because she was cleaning out the garage and she thought i must have tons of stuff left there.
i didn't but there was a box of unplaced mags in one.
i pulled out one when i got home and it was this one.. i'm sure that if i had read it when it came out, i would have felt that the wt had feelings of sadness over these children.
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steve2
There is so much that is wrong-headed about the article.
Firstly, how would any JW feel if their child were featured in such a classically negative and manipulative way on the cover of a widely distributed magazine whose main article "feeds off" human desperation? The article has absolutely nothing of value to offer but future promises. God is not slow indeed for those who already have food in their belly but for those on the edge of death His slowness equals death. How dare the well-fed writer(s) quote the words from 1 Peter when people are dying.
Secondly, the article is not pitched at the organizations, scientists, volunteers and others who have devoted their lives to helping those suffering from extreme poverty. It is pitched to the well fed people who are as far removed from the desperate plight of human suffering and who are comfortable enough to read this kind of lame rubbish.
Thirdly - and with no disrespect to those still suffering from extreme poverty - but since the article was printed nearly 30 years ago (1991) - the extent of extreme poverty in the world has decreased significantly. Of course extreme poverty still exists - but its scale has dropped.
Fourthly, if the organizations, scientists, volunteers and others who strive to help those living in poverty had somehow heard about and subsequently accepted and embraced JW organization's notoriously passive line about leaving the solution in Jehovah's hands, the world would currently have an even greater proportion of humans suffering extreme poverty. Look at countries like Bangladesh which once was one of the "poster" nations of extreme and burgeoning poverty: The standard of living in that country had improved exponentially in recent years beyond all predictions and expectations.
JWs' line on poverty suits the mindset of those who are NOT in the grip of extreme poverty for those near to or suffering from it do not have the luxury of using such poverty as an entry in preaching a useless message about a tomorrow of plenty than never ever comes.
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Reaching out
by Reg andeson inhi everyone my name is reg anderson i am from new brunswick canada.
i have currently relocated to toronto canada.
i am currntly working in downtown toronto .
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steve2
I wondered if Reg is who he said he is (looking for a local congregation of JWs).
In a large city such as Toronto it is so easy to locate local congregations of JWs; there are more than 20 kingdom halls in the larger Toronto metropolitan area.
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Our Spiritual Heritage of Failed Expectations
by neat blue dog inlast sunday's watchtower tells the story of a man who:.
was baptized in 1908 at the age of 20. he was very confident that he would soon receive his reward.
in fact, when he proposed marriage in 1911, he told his prospective bride, pearl: “you know what is going to happen in 1914. if we are going to get married, we better do it soon!” did this christian couple give up the race for life when they did not receive their heavenly reward in 1914?
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steve2
Halt everything people. Check the small print in your life insurance policy regarding payouts. It says "In Jehovah's due time". And you thought it was just around the corner. Always - but always - check the small print.
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Satan is abyssed for 1000 years and when released, immediately asks...
by The Fall Guy in... "has brexit been sorted out yet?
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steve2
Jehovah, why didn't you destroy me when I first rebelled instead of letting this drag on for thousands upon thousands of years and cost unending millions of human lives?