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  Lloyd Evans keeps doing parts on how the JWs are guilty of follwing the bible.

  by mickbobcat in

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  i have been watching evans videos for a while.

  he keeps attacking the cult for following the bible.

  women are to be subservient to men.

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  steve2

  Different strokes for different folks.

  I wished I had questioned the Bible when I left JW organization because the "risk" for me was I tried to find other groups who had the same JW "Bible-inerrancy" template and that delayed my moving on for years . If people are questioning the organization or waking up more generally, I don't think they would be put off doing so because an ex-JW You Tube channel such as Lloyd's openly criticizes the Bible.

  BTW, Lloyd has said on numerous occasions that JWs are not the only ones who pick and choose which Scriptures to interpret literally and which to symbolically or figuratively interpret.

  As regards the length of his videos for those who would like to watch them but the length is on the off-putting side, one recommendation is to watch the shorter videos (which come out daily) or treat the longer videos of interest like a book: watch a portion at a time.
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  Just the Flu eh?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/04/fit-and-healthy-man-42-from-southport-who-rejected-vaccine-dies-of-covid.

  this has been widely reported by left and right wing news papers.

  just food for thought..

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  steve2

  Anony Mous needed to have been alive to observe the devastation wrought by the 1918 Spanish flu which literally decimated entire communities. There were no Lockdowns. And it is not okay that the death toll of such pandemics, if left unchecked, is more devastating on those from lower socio-economic communities because immediate health care is not available. Lockdowns help prevent hospitals from being stretched beyond capacity - in which case, immediate medical intervention is not possible so people are more likely to die or develop ongoing complications such as the medically-recognized "Long Covid".

  Other arguments - such as those dying from "king's diseases" - are little more than special pleading.
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  Brigitte Gabriel's Epic Answer To "Most Muslims Are Peaceful..."

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  watch brigitte gabriel's epic and brilliant answer to "most muslims are peaceful...".

  https://youtu.be/_z_rabojcu0.

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  steve2

  There are 13 countries in the world, where atheism is punishable with death. They are all muslim.

  And a few short centuries ago, "Christendom" executed athiests, with the Roman catholic Church leading the slaughter.

  That doesn't justify the current deplorable "policies" on killing athiests in those 13 Muslim countries - but it highlights the recency of similar responses within Christendom.
  
  
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  Brigitte Gabriel's Epic Answer To "Most Muslims Are Peaceful..."

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  watch brigitte gabriel's epic and brilliant answer to "most muslims are peaceful...".

  https://youtu.be/_z_rabojcu0.

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  steve2

  There are 13 countries in the world, where atheism is punishable with death. They are all muslim.

  And a few short centuries ago, "Christendom" executed anyone who espoused a different god or no god. This does not "excuse" human rights atrocities in Muslim countries, but it shows that the "West's" own history stands as evidence that slaughter and blood shed are not unique to Islam.

  
  
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  Brigitte Gabriel's Epic Answer To "Most Muslims Are Peaceful..."

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  watch brigitte gabriel's epic and brilliant answer to "most muslims are peaceful...".

  https://youtu.be/_z_rabojcu0.

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  Polls have shown over and over that the majority of Muslims are not peaceful and hold abhorrent views and would welcome death to others even though they may not personally take action - they certainly support it.

  Couldn't this be said about any number of so-called Christian fundamentalists, JWs included who have strong beliefs about everyone other than their own group being destroyed at Armageddon.
  
  
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  the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

  by waton in

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  2. bible

  for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

  if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

  the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

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  Even in the so-called "Lord's prayer" (that JWs love to quote) Jesus says, "Our Father in heaven, let your name be sanctified..." - but he doesn't actually use his father's name.
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  Art work in the 1933 book riches

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i picked this book up at a flea market for three bucks.

  the art work is great.

  i love the satan and .

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  Adam and Eve are specimens of badly- drawn humans, flat-chested, of pasty-white complexion and quite delicate in build. Clearly, the Judge saw the first humans as Caucasians betraying his ethno-superior world view. I would have thought Adam would have had a full beard and well-defined abs but no.

  Satan, as usual, gets to wear the most impressive clothes. I'd kill for that toga and sandals.
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  This Discussion Board

  by minimus in

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  when you look back the last 20 years , what a transformation!

  back then witnesses were putting out poetry and most were singing the praises of the organization.

  slowly and gradually, negative thoughts were allowed to be expressed about doctrines, elders and congregation life.

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  steve2

  I credit this forum with helping me find my voice. The forum has changed over the years, as all living things do - it would be a terrible thing if it had stayed the same.

  It has undeniably helped untold numbers of people and for that, I thank Simon for keeping the forum going and very much active.
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  Actual setting of meeting demonstration this week

  by neat blue dog in

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  invite your student to the memorial, and explain from the bible why he should not partake of the emblems.. they might as well just put up a warning: do not feed the visitors sign 🤣 meanwhile, more and more baptized jws by the thousands continue to come out of the annointed closet year by year..

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  steve2

  Where else on earth do you get an invite to a special evening meal where bread and wine are served and you are instructed not to partake?

  Might as well have stayed at home.
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  Harry, Meghan the Royal Apostates

  by Slidin Fast in

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  i just watched the oprah interview.

  i know that many view them with little interest as just entitled wastes of space and i get that.. however, the description of how they were "trapped" and silenced and forced into perpetuating the system with little or no personal freedom rang bells for me.

  they are effectively shunned, estranged and disparaged by their family and cut off from support.

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  steve2

  Harry complained he had felt trapped in his princely role, and also included his father, Charles and his brother, William as also being trapped.

  Meanwhile, throughout the world, viewers were exclaiming, "Welcome to the real world where it's kind of common for humans to feel 'trapped' in their life roles".