Because Jehovah may be watching and they may get some brownie points for when they get into the New System for defending the glorious WTBTS.
Do they count each posting as a Return Visit?
Because Jehovah may be watching and they may get some brownie points for when they get into the New System for defending the glorious WTBTS.
Do they count each posting as a Return Visit?
my experience as a jw teenager was total repression and control from my parents and i know that the majority of my friends at that age in the congregations suffered the same.. now...what's happening?!.
i come home and find a regular full time pioneer smooching with my non jw son on the sofa.. i"m reliably told that jw youngsters are in the local pub after each meeting and have to be thrown out at chuck out time.. they seem to behave in a far worse way that some non bible believing youngsters that i know.. are they finally feeling their feet and the wtbts due a huge exodus in the next few years?.
i'm slightly embarrassed at the behaviour of some of these youngsters when i'm told what they've been seen getting up to.. or am i just getting old?
RunningMan! You're only as old as you feel!
Balsam - I know it sounds selfish but we're enjoying and benefiting from our quiet fade. Seems an awful shame to get caught out now. It's not a case that we're not sympathetic to young JWs after all, how long did it take us to escape the clutches of the WTBTS? Too long!
I know a lot of these young people will leave the 'trooth' in time but they are seriously messed up with their double lives. I think,mentally they will be in worse shape that some of us older ones who were too crushed to even think of escape. They've lived double lives for too long and think everything's OK as long as they don't get caught.
Craziness!
as jws we heard this over and over again.
we still see this phrase used time and time again on this board.
what, exactly does this mean to you and how do you think it is applied or should be applied?.
Spot on Elsewhere!
It's all about appearances and not reality!
I've thought for a long time that JWs don't actually believe in God, just in publicity, good or bad and peoples opinion of them!
like i don't like that un involvment, record keeping.
i don't know what to think about the paedophile stuff, because you could accuse the catholic church of that too.
but apart from those things i still believe that god's name is jehovah, his son is jesus, no trinity, and he died on a torture stake... i love reading the new world translation, i believe it's the best one, but i love reading other translations too!
Not one line of what they say do I believe.
A little leaven ferments the whole lump and they're smelling decidedly yeasty to me!
hello there i would like to tell a story that will shock you.
this is how it all started... my sister at 19 was planning to marry a brother into the kingdom hall, she was not yet baptized so she was trying to keep her marriage plans a secret.
a couple of weeks from her marriage the elders of the congretation found out and contacted my mother whom we were still living with.
COOL!!!!
Wish I could have seen it!
Glad you were all okay and escaped thought!
my experience as a jw teenager was total repression and control from my parents and i know that the majority of my friends at that age in the congregations suffered the same.. now...what's happening?!.
i come home and find a regular full time pioneer smooching with my non jw son on the sofa.. i"m reliably told that jw youngsters are in the local pub after each meeting and have to be thrown out at chuck out time.. they seem to behave in a far worse way that some non bible believing youngsters that i know.. are they finally feeling their feet and the wtbts due a huge exodus in the next few years?.
i'm slightly embarrassed at the behaviour of some of these youngsters when i'm told what they've been seen getting up to.. or am i just getting old?
Hi All and JustTickledPink!
I would never 'rat' on this young lady. She's the same age as my son, early twenties. But! As I see it, when her parents find out, afterall what stays secret, it will be us they come after. We have quietly faded for four years now.
The young lady is a FT Pioneer and doesn't want to be! They will want to keep her that way and not loose this young woman to a worldling and I would imagine, which is what I'm worried about, that our fade will turn into the BIG BOOT just so that she can't come round here and assiciate with my son.
I have very few qualms about peoples sex drives as long as they're willing and use contraception. But I don't believe this is going to be as easy as that.
Kids!!! Don't they bloody well make life complicated.
this is a long post, i dont usually post in these lengths so bare with me.
i wrote the following letter some years ago for someone who was battling to see their children, parts of the letter became used in court cases, a lot of info is deleted but i have kept the drift.... .
dear ***.
That's a very moving story, Brummie!
It just makes me wonder about how strong this hold is that the WTBTS had on us all. We have all these bad experiences and yet we stayed for years and years out of sheer fear of what they could take away from us.
Not only can they take your family from you but they claim to be able to take your eternal life.
Scary people.
But glad you learnt better from your father!
Best wishes!
my experience as a jw teenager was total repression and control from my parents and i know that the majority of my friends at that age in the congregations suffered the same.. now...what's happening?!.
i come home and find a regular full time pioneer smooching with my non jw son on the sofa.. i"m reliably told that jw youngsters are in the local pub after each meeting and have to be thrown out at chuck out time.. they seem to behave in a far worse way that some non bible believing youngsters that i know.. are they finally feeling their feet and the wtbts due a huge exodus in the next few years?.
i'm slightly embarrassed at the behaviour of some of these youngsters when i'm told what they've been seen getting up to.. or am i just getting old?
Hi Low-Key Lysmith - LMAO! Good for you1
Kwintestal - There's a mix. Some are elders children. My son's lady friend is an elders daughter. She's a lovely girl but......
my experience as a jw teenager was total repression and control from my parents and i know that the majority of my friends at that age in the congregations suffered the same.. now...what's happening?!.
i come home and find a regular full time pioneer smooching with my non jw son on the sofa.. i"m reliably told that jw youngsters are in the local pub after each meeting and have to be thrown out at chuck out time.. they seem to behave in a far worse way that some non bible believing youngsters that i know.. are they finally feeling their feet and the wtbts due a huge exodus in the next few years?.
i'm slightly embarrassed at the behaviour of some of these youngsters when i'm told what they've been seen getting up to.. or am i just getting old?
I meant to add also, that I've been telling my son, he's twenty years old, to go and get himself a nice 'Canaanite Girl' and to stay away from 'Jehovah's people' because they're nothing but trouble.
He won't listen to the voice of the prophetess I'm afraid. But I know that this is going to mess up our nice leisurely fade from the bOrg! So this is no laughing matter for us.
Father and Grand father of the young lady, very nice young lady too, are both super elders!
They caused us so much trouble when we were in their congregation that we moved house to get away from them, and cong.
Now if they find out that their daughter's playing 'fast and loose with our son' well, I don't think our fade is going to last for long before its followed by a double D'Fing!
Moving house is not going to sort this problem, this time!
my experience as a jw teenager was total repression and control from my parents and i know that the majority of my friends at that age in the congregations suffered the same.. now...what's happening?!.
i come home and find a regular full time pioneer smooching with my non jw son on the sofa.. i"m reliably told that jw youngsters are in the local pub after each meeting and have to be thrown out at chuck out time.. they seem to behave in a far worse way that some non bible believing youngsters that i know.. are they finally feeling their feet and the wtbts due a huge exodus in the next few years?.
i'm slightly embarrassed at the behaviour of some of these youngsters when i'm told what they've been seen getting up to.. or am i just getting old?
Well it's like this. My experience as a Jw teenager was total repression and control from my parents and I know that the majority of my friends at that age in the Congregations suffered the same.
Now...what's happening?!
I come home and find a regular full time pioneer smooching with my non JW son on the sofa.
I"m reliably told that JW youngsters are in the local pub after each meeting and have to be thrown out at chuck out time.
They seem to behave in a far worse way that some non bible believing youngsters that I know.
Are they finally feeling their feet and the WTBTS due a huge exodus in the next few years?
I'm slightly embarrassed at the behaviour of some of these youngsters when I'm told what they've been seen getting up to.
Or am I just getting old?