Posts by Gill

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Will they ever be mainstream?

by Justin in

some religions which have been on the fringe of society are eventually accepted into the mainstream because they have an aspect which is socially acceptable or beneficial to society.

for example, the seventh day adventists have hospitals and the mormons have the tabernacle choir.

but the jws seem to have nothing with which to appeal to the larger culture.

Gill

Never! 'We are no part of the World!' I believe is a phrase they're proud of using.

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Finish This Sentence....You Know you're a JW teenager If....

by doodle-v in

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during class the teacher asks "who all plan to go to college?

" and you shrink down in your seat in an effort to become invisible as everyone in the class raises their hand.

-doodle-v. your turn!

Gill

You're eighteen and have the confidence and maturity of a twelve year old!

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'If you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'

by Elsewhere in

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/01/30/wgerm30.xml

'if you don't take a job as a prostitute, we can stop your benefits'

by clare chapman .

Bloody disgraceful. Looks like Britain will have to invade and sort that government out that is forcing rape on its women folk. If we can do it for the Iraqis then we can do it for the Germans. Are you Americans with us?

Seriously! I cannot imagine anything more vile being forced on any man or woman. The emotional and psychological issues are enormous. Germany just dropped down to shit in my esteem

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Can God Love the Unlovable? Re: Yorkshire Ripper.

by eyeslice in

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i was shocked to learn this weekend that a notoriously serial killer, a man who murdered and disembowelled in the order of 13 women, now claims to be one of jehovah's witnesses.

see thread on the yorkshire ripper ?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/84353/1.ashx - follow link to the article on his background.. now, this may or may not be a good choice of religion for him.

Gill

Most probably, a person who repents and is really sorry for what they have done and I mean REALLY sorry is loveable. They cannot forgive themselves or live with themselves. This is not something portrayed by Peter Sutcliffe.

There was a case a year or so ago of a seriously ill schizophrenic young woman who stabbed her five year old daughter to death. She pleaded guilty and was guilty but she could have got away with a lighter sentence because of her illness but she was so PAINFULLY remorseful that she begged to be punished with a lengthy prison sentence. She could not forgive herself for what she had done.

This is a far cry from Sutcliffe's 'no point crying over spilt milk' analogy.

A truly repentant person is suffering by their own hand for what they did. They do not dismiss it. I can imagine most people would have some compassion for such a person, no matter how bad their deed, even if they did need to be locked up permananty.

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We Should Encourage "Lurkers" To Post Here!

by minimus in

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i would like to say that any of you that read this board are more than welcomed to be a part of this group.

i know some of you are afraid.

some of you are unsure.

Gill

Hi Holly, zeroday, Bornagain!

Sorry that you have seen so many unpleasant things in the bOrg but that's the way it is in big, bag bOrgland I'm afraid. Seen it and put up with it all my life and one day... enough!

Welcome newbies!

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What would I do with out this here fourm.

by PinTail in

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this fourm has gave much information i would never seen other wise.

i learned that many other people have been cut low spiritualy speaking, by the actions of the witness policys.

to bad that most of you guys and gals i will never meet.

Gill

Wow! Thanks Shane. Actually I'm an almost recovered agoraphobic and travelling has to be part of my long term recovery. To travel so far does seem wild and mind blowingly fantastic. You never know. One day!!!!!

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Letter to elder, does it make any sense?

by PinTail in

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dear steve, since our last study together at our home i have had a few perplexing questions concerning the lunches and other communications with my wife pat while i was left at home, along with my never being asked to participate notwithstanding of who is paying for the meal; besides being her husband and head.. i have wanted to send this letter of inquiry concerning this matter, because it has weighed heavy on my mind, and also in view of the fact that don said at my door earlier with the other fellow that was with him, that you really liked me.

i feel you are a very good teacher as i mentioned to you on the phone as well as a wise man, so it is in this spirit that i have sent this letter to you.. after the last lunch that you and your wife had with my wife that was at lest two or three in number, me and my wife discussed why the questionings and mysterious arrangements that were apart from me appeared to be planed that way?

ever since that time i have mulled it over in my mind even at times waking up at night wondering just why there were these coordinated lunches to discuss studying or possibly other subjects, when i would never have restricted my wife?s desire to study even if i do have misgivings concerning some congregational policies.

Gill

Hi Shane,

Great letter. jgnat does get rid of some of the parts that are none of the elder's business if you chose to use that version. It's difficult for you, I can see but sometimes people have to just butt out of your life and let you get on without trying to force you to do, or your wife to do things you don't want to. They may well be a kindly old couple but this cloak and dagger skullduggery of theirs, in taking your wife out without you is NOT ON.

You have a great wife, if you want some JW spirituality by all means read your bible with their publications but do you really need to be harrassed by someone who may well be out to get some hours and a study on his report slip?

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