It is funny how there has to be an outright assault for the people who are right.
Stop looking at the witnesses and look at yourself.
you know, a frequent poster here, is a mentally deranged semi-jehovah's witness with serious mental problems.
he has serious issues with the watchtower, thus negating his effectiveness as a jw.
he has no responsibility in his own congregation because he is regarded as "strange.
It is funny how there has to be an outright assault for the people who are right.
Stop looking at the witnesses and look at yourself.
ok, i don't see a problem with having a homosexual person looking after a child, but this quote caught my attention:.
themes of adult-child sex are common in gay publications.
the nation's largest gay publisher, alyson publications, which distributes "daddy' s roommate" and other books that promote homosexuality to children, also publishes books advocating man-boy sex, or pedophilia, including:"the radical case," which contains detailed information on how to engage in sexual relations with young boys, and "the age taboo," which claims "boy-lovers ... are not child molesters.
Homosexuality has become the norm in Satans world.
this is a site promoting a case of 20,000 and counting child molesters.
of course they had to have 3 areas to come up with a good number to start with.
why would this site want too take a number from three areas some may ask.
This site only cares about English speaking people.
the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.
one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.
in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.
For the past 114 years, The Watchtower, like a skillful lawyer, has established itself as a defender of Bible truth and doctrine. In the process, it has won the confidence of millions of appreciative readers. It still powerfully supports the ransom. (See, for example, the issue of February 15, 1991.) And it continues to be the principal instrument of "the faithful and discreet slave" and its Governing Body for announcing Jehovah's established Kingdom and dispensing spiritual food "at the proper time."-Matthew 24:14, 45.
What about the Awake! magazine? From its beginning, Awake! too has advocated truth. Originally called The Golden Age, this magazine was designed for public distribution. Regarding its objective, the first issue, dated October 1, 1919, stated: "Its purpose is to explain in the light of Divine wisdom the true meaning of the great phenomena of the present day and to prove to thinking minds by evidence incontrovertible and convincing that the time of a greater blessing of mankind is now at hand." Thinking people responded to the message of The Golden Age. For a number of years, its circulation was even greater than that of The Watchtower.
The apostates (ExJW's) have been lost like a puppy since they have no more hope. And those pups have been going back to eat the discusting thing.
things that you definitely will not learn upfront: (and again, this is just a few...).
fight against independent thinking.
6-8-1986, page.9 would that all were prophets!.
SloBoy says, and I am sorry I am turning into quote person like most people here,"I just wanted a bit of REPREIVE from a miserable condition". That condition will pass away in the new system of things with all greed. It is ok to seek a good education. But you should know that the degree that you may be after is being given only after you spend 30 to 50 thousand dollars. Alot of money just to teach someone a skill. The college sure is greedy and a profitable business.
only god has the power to create things.
but he can have help with the design.that is why they can only be mutants or huge giants when having relations with humans.
the demons have the power to go into the body.
You say, "Obvious it's figurative for the success the apostles have through the name of Jesus in defeating satan's world."
Satans world is still at it trying to keep people from doing God's Principles. As you can see in my last post 1914 was the year Satan and his demons were casted down.
call 1 - 800 - try - pray.. if that line is busy call 911.
Yes I actually think the Bible has it all. And do not forget there is no such think as the perfect crime. Have a happy joy day :)
call 1 - 800 - try - pray.. if that line is busy call 911.
It is the one doing the crime that will lose eternity.
call 1 - 800 - try - pray.. if that line is busy call 911.
Call 1 - 800 - TRY - PRAY.
If that line is busy call 911.
according to revelation 20:10 the devil will be tormented day and night forever and ever along with the "false prophet".
i asked several jw's about this and the reply was "we don't take it like that" or "it doesn't literally mean that".
wether or not there is a hell it sure seams they are missing or ignoring something.
When you have time to real all this you may. The last paragraph has the date of 1914.
FOR THOUSANDS of years persons with faith in Gods government have looked forward to the time when it would begin its rule. For example, the Bible says that faithful Abraham was awaiting the city having real foundations, the builder and maker of which city is God. (Hebrews 11:10) That city is Gods kingdom. But why is it here called a city? This is because in ancient times it was common for a king to rule over a city. So people often thought of a city as a kingdom.
The kingdom of God was real to Christs early followers. This is shown by their keen interest in its rule. (Matthew 20:20-23) A question in their minds was: When would Christ and his disciples begin ruling? Once when Jesus appeared to his disciples after his resurrection, they asked: Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time? (Acts 1:6) So, are you eager to learn when Christ begins to rule as King of Gods government, even as Christs disciples were?
THE GOVERNMENT FOR WHICH CHRISTIANS PRAY
Christ taught his followers to pray to God: Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. (Matthew 6:9, 10) But someone may ask: Has not Jehovah God always ruled as king? And if he has, why pray for his kingdom to come?
True, the Bible calls Jehovah the King of eternity. (1 Timothy 1:17) And it says: Jehovah himself has firmly established his throne in the very heavens; and over everything his own kingship has held domination. (Psalm 103:19) So Jehovah has always been the Supreme Ruler over all his creations. (Jeremiah 10:10) However, because of the rebellion against his rulership in the garden of Eden, God arranged for a special government. This is the government for which Jesus Christ later taught his followers to pray. Its purpose is to end the problems caused when Satan the Devil and others turned away from Gods rulership.
This new Kingdom government receives its power and right to rule from the Great King, Jehovah God. It is his kingdom. Over and over again, the Bible calls it the kingdom of God. (Luke 9:2, 11, 60, 62; 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10; 15:50) However, since Jehovah has appointed his Son to be its Chief Ruler, it is also referred to as Christs kingdom. (2 Peter 1:11) As we learned in an earlier chapter, 144,000 persons from among humankind will rule with Christ in this kingdom. (Revelation 14:1-4; 20:6) So the Bible also refers to it as their kingdom.Daniel 7:27.
Some persons say that the Kingdom began its rule in the year that Jesus returned to heaven. They say that Christ began ruling when he poured out the holy spirit on his followers on the day of the Jewish festival of Pentecost in the year 33 C.E. (Acts 2:1-4) But the Kingdom government that Jehovah arranged to end all the problems created by Satans rebellion did not begin its rule then. There is nothing to show that the male child, which is Gods government with Christ as ruler, was then born and began its rule. (Revelation 12:1-10) Well, did Jesus in any way have a kingdom in the year 33 C.E.?
Yes, Jesus then began to rule over his congregation of followers who, in time, were to join him in the heavens. Thus the Bible speaks of them, while they are on earth, as being taken into the kingdom of the Son of [Gods] love. (Colossians 1:13) But this rule, or kingdom, over Christians with the hope of heavenly life is not the Kingdom government for which Jesus taught his followers to pray. It is a kingdom over only the 144,000 persons who will rule with him in heaven. Down through the centuries they have been its only subjects. Thus this rule, or kingdom of the Son of Gods love, will end when the last one of these subjects with a heavenly hope dies and joins Christ in heaven. No longer will they be Christs subjects, but they will then be kings with him in Gods long-promised Kingdom government.
BEGINNING OF RULE IN THE MIDST OF ENEMIES
When Christ returned to heaven after his resurrection, he did not start ruling then as King of Gods government. Rather, there was to be a time of waiting, as the apostle Paul explains: This man [Jesus Christ] offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God, from then on awaiting until his enemies should be placed as a stool for his feet. (Hebrews 10:12, 13) When the time came for Christ to begin to rule, Jehovah told him: Go subduing [or, conquering] in the midst of your enemies.Psalm 110:1, 2, 5, 6.
Does it sound strange that anyone would be an enemy of Gods government? Yet not everyone wants to live under a government that requires its subjects to do what is right. So after telling how Jehovah and his Son would take over world rulership, the Bible says, the nations became wrathful. (Revelation 11:15, 17, 18) The nations do not welcome Gods kingdom because Satan misleads them into opposing it.
When Gods government begins its rule, Satan and his angels are still living in heaven. Since they oppose Kingdom rule, right away war breaks out. As a result, Satan and his angels are thrown out of heaven. At this, a loud voice says: Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ. Yes, the rule of Gods government begins! And with Satan and his angels removed from heaven, there is rejoicing there. On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! the Bible says.Revelation 12:7-12.
Is this also a happy time for the earth? No! Instead, there is the greatest time of trouble the earth has ever had. The Bible tells us: Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time. (Revelation 12:12) So this is an important point to remember: The start of the rule of Gods kingdom does not mean immediate peace and security on earth. True peace will come later when Gods kingdom takes full control of the earth. This happens at the end of the short period of time, when Satan and his angels will be put out of the way so that they can no longer cause trouble for anyone.
But when is Satan thrown out of heaven, thus causing trouble on earth for a short period of time? When does Gods government begin its rule? Does the Bible give an answer? We should expect that it would. Why? Well, because long in advance the Bible foretold when Gods Son would appear first as a human on earth to become the Messiah. In fact, it pointed to the very year that he became the Messiah. What, then, about the even more important coming of the Messiah, or Christ, to begin his Kingdom rule? Surely we would expect that the Bible would also tell us when this would happen!
But a person may ask: Where does the Bible foretell the very year the Messiah appeared on earth? The Bible book of Daniel says: From the going forth of the word to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem until Messiah the Leader, there will be seven weeks, also sixty-two weeks, or all together 69 weeks. (Daniel 9:25) These, however, are not 69 literal weeks, which amount to only 483 days, or a little more than one year. They are 69 weeks of years, or 483 years. (Compare Numbers 14:34.) The command to restore and rebuild the walls of Jerusalem was given in 455 B.C.E. (Nehemiah 2:1-8) So these 69 weeks of years ended 483 years later, in 29 C.E. And that is the very year that Jesus came to John to be baptized! On that occasion he was anointed with holy spirit and became the Messiah, or Christ.Luke 3:1, 2, 21-23.
WHEN GODS GOVERNMENT BEGINS ITS RULE
Well, then, where does the Bible foretell the year that Christ begins to rule as king of Gods government? It is in this same Bible book of Daniel. (Daniel 4:10-37) There a giant, heaven-high tree is used to represent King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. He was the highest human ruler at that time. However, King Nebuchadnezzar was forced to know that someone higher was ruling. This one is the Most High, or the King of the heavens, Jehovah God. (Daniel 4:34, 37) So, in a more important way, this heaven-high tree, comes to represent the supreme rulership of God, particularly in its relationship to our earth. Jehovahs rulership was expressed for a time through the kingdom that he set up over the nation of Israel. Thus the kings of the tribe of Judah who reigned over the Israelites were said to sit upon Jehovahs throne.1 Chronicles 29:23.
According to the Bible account in Daniel chapter four, the heaven-high tree was cut down. However, the stump was left, and bands of iron and of copper were put on it. This would keep the stump from growing until it was Gods time to remove the bands and let it start growing again. But how and when was Gods rulership cut down?
In due course, the kingdom of Judah that Jehovah had set up became so corrupt that he allowed King Nebuchadnezzar to destroy it, to cut it down. This happened in the year 607 B.C.E. At that time Zedekiah, the last king of Judah to sit on Jehovahs throne, was told: Lift off the crown. . . . it will certainly become no ones until he comes who has the legal right, and I must give it to him.Ezekiel 21:25-27.
So Gods rulership, as represented by the tree, was cut down in 607 B.C.E. No longer was there a government to represent Gods rulership in the earth. Thus, in 607 B.C.E. a period of time began that Jesus Christ later referred to as the appointed times of the nations, or, the times of the Gentiles. (Luke 21:24; King James Version) During these appointed times God did not have a government to represent his rulership in the earth.
What was to happen at the end of these appointed times of the nations? Jehovah was to give the power to rule to the One who has the legal right. This One is Jesus Christ. So if we can find out when the appointed times of the nations end, we will know when Christ begins to rule as king.
According to Daniel chapter four, these appointed times would be seven times. Daniel shows that there would be seven times during which Gods rulership, as represented by the tree, would not be in operation over the earth. (Daniel 4:16, 23) How long are these seven times?
In Revelation chapter 12, verses 6 and 14, we learn that 1,260 days are equal to a time [that is, 1 time] and times [that is, 2 times] and half a time. That is a total of 3 1/2 times. So a time would be equal to 360 days. Therefore, seven times would be 7 times 360, or 2,520 days. Now if we count a day for a year, according to a Bible rule, the seven times equal 2,520 years.Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6.
We have already learned that the appointed times of the nations began in the year 607 B.C.E. So by counting 2,520 years from that date, we come down to 1914 C.E. That is the year these appointed times ended. Millions of people still living remember the things that happened in 1914. In that year, World War I began a period of terrible trouble that has continued to our day. This means that Jesus Christ began to rule as king of Gods heavenly government in 1914. And because the Kingdom has already started its rule, how timely it is that we pray for it to come and wipe Satans wicked system of things from the earth!Matthew 6:10; Daniel 2:44.