Posts by Thegoodgirl

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Paying for the pioneer

by Thegoodgirl in

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hi guys, let me get your opinion on this:.

my mom's a pioneer, so she scrapes by on little money, refuses to work overtime, and tries to even survive on part time entry level work.

she can survive, but when it comes to getting appliances fixed, going on vacation, buying new clothes, she has to rely on others gifts and donations to her.. i want her to come visit me, and i need to pay for her ticket.

Thegoodgirl

UpsideDown: LOL! Love more than you're loved. Ain't it true? (Well that's how it feel sometimes, anyway).

Yeah, exactly who cares about the cult, I want to see mom. I have gone to visit her several times in the past three years since I moved from the state she's in, but I bought a house last year, and I just havent gotten to share that with her. I know she would love stuff about it like it's old, and has all those little old details like big wooden frames around the doors, etc. And it has a built in china cabinet, which I know she will love. (Of course terrible plumbing/electric and all that other old house stuff.) Actually it reminds me of the house we lived in before she got the truth. It was also old, and my parents always wanted an old, charactaristic fixer-upper. They she got the truth, they moved South, and got divorced. But they both (mom and dad) refer to that old house as good times when we were all still together. Anyway, the house has a lot of meaning to me, like I'm normal again, back where I started. I think seeing it will help her remember old times, and bring out the normalcy in her, the non JW side.

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Paying for the pioneer

by Thegoodgirl in

jw
friends

hi guys, let me get your opinion on this:.

my mom's a pioneer, so she scrapes by on little money, refuses to work overtime, and tries to even survive on part time entry level work.

she can survive, but when it comes to getting appliances fixed, going on vacation, buying new clothes, she has to rely on others gifts and donations to her.. i want her to come visit me, and i need to pay for her ticket.

Thegoodgirl

It's odd, when we were kids, my grandparents or aunts/uncles would pay for our plane tickets to come visit. I was always grateful and embarrassed, but thought, well we're poor and they're rich, so it makes sense. Now that I'm older Ican see we were only poor because we chose to be. In fact I'm finding out how many opportunities we actually had to get out of that situation, but were turned down by mom so that she could keep pioneering.

I'm somehow not mad at her for that, it's just all part of being in a cult. I just feel that my paying for her isn't going to change anything in the long run about her faith. It will just get me what I want which is for her to come visit me. I don't want to support a cult, but some things are just bigger than us, like 4 million people blindly following the men in Brooklyn. Nothin I can do but make the best of the situation.

Upsidedown: I didn't know you worked where the need was great. sorry you got the short end of the stick from the society. Glad you realized it and got out.

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Paying for the pioneer

by Thegoodgirl in

jw
friends

hi guys, let me get your opinion on this:.

my mom's a pioneer, so she scrapes by on little money, refuses to work overtime, and tries to even survive on part time entry level work.

she can survive, but when it comes to getting appliances fixed, going on vacation, buying new clothes, she has to rely on others gifts and donations to her.. i want her to come visit me, and i need to pay for her ticket.

Thegoodgirl

DragonLady: Yes, and I know it will cause a lot of discord.

Greendawn: I know, it isn't often that we have to help her out. In fact, this is the first time, though we've been lucky that she doesnt' have other suprise expenses come up like medical bills.

She's pretty independent and never asks for money. We all grew up that lifestyle. Independent, but poor women. We often had donations of groceries from the congregation. But we never asked for them. And mom would try to get a better job when it got that bad. It's just that she's always living on as little as possible, so if I want to see her, it's just silly for me to expect for her to come up with the money.

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Our Friend, Outnfree, Needs Our Help!

by Robdar in

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as most of you are aware, our friend, brenda, aka outnfree, has been diagnosed with breast cancer and is undergoing chemo.

i asked her if she would mind if we did a weekly prayer vigil and she said that she would appreciate it.

she thinks that thursdays would be good since that is when she goes to the doctor to receive the chemo.

Thegoodgirl

I will send my good thoughts this Thursday, Brenda. I'll put it on my calendar! You'll do well, the cancer will be dissolved by the Chemo, and you'll be feeling like yourself again soon.

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Paying for the pioneer

by Thegoodgirl in

jw
friends

hi guys, let me get your opinion on this:.

my mom's a pioneer, so she scrapes by on little money, refuses to work overtime, and tries to even survive on part time entry level work.

she can survive, but when it comes to getting appliances fixed, going on vacation, buying new clothes, she has to rely on others gifts and donations to her.. i want her to come visit me, and i need to pay for her ticket.

Thegoodgirl

Hi guys, let me get your opinion on this:

My mom's a pioneer, so she scrapes by on little money, refuses to work overtime, and tries to even survive on part time entry level work. She can survive, but when it comes to getting appliances fixed, going on vacation, buying new clothes, she has to rely on others gifts and donations to her.

I want her to come visit me, and I need to pay for her ticket. I am willing to do this, knowing she's a die hard, and she will never stop pioneering to pay for these "little things". She'd rather consider it just a sacrifice for Jehovah that she never visits me.

SO, my husband, who has never been a JW is totally against the idea saying we shouldn't support her in that lifestyle because it will only encourage her to keep pioneering. I am not sure if we would even have to pay for the whole thing, I'm sure half would help a lot. So anyway, I'm quite upset about it, not that I'd obey him anyway, but it will cause lots of conflict when I buy the ticket. Is anyone else dealing with a similar die hard with no money?

GG

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Wife is pretty much done!

by mkr32208 in

i haven't been here much for the last 6 months or so because... (drum roll please) my wife has pretty much called it quits!

she's not been to a meeting now in over a year!

(well she went to visit a gung-ho friend for the weekend and went to one sunday) no service in at least twice that long!

Thegoodgirl

So glad to hear the good news. It must be an awesome time for you, I know I would be just thrilled if my mom or sister drifted away. I'm happy for you.

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Pink Floyd reformed and playing at the London Live 8 concert

by jimakazi in

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my all time favorite band pink floyd has reformed - with roger waters too - for the live 8 concert.. as a teenage i used to chill out to the floyd.

the song "comfortably numb" somehow resonates with me.

anyway live 8 starts in an hour or so [1 am nz] and i'll be up all night enjoying it.

Thegoodgirl

I love that brick in the wall comparison. So true. Wish YOU Were Here is my favorite. We got a DVD-R just for the event.

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Is College now wrong for Jehovah's Witnesses again?

by booker-t in

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i have been out of the jw's for many years now but i still have devout jw's family members.

and i am attending college now at 40 yrs old working on my ba degree.

i was so happy a few years ago when my jw mom told me that the wt is slacking off on telling jw's teenagers that college is bad and it is ok to attend college and universities.

Thegoodgirl

Oh my God. That is horrible. I'm dreading this one. I hope hope hope my sister misses that one. She's gone back to grad school by some JW miracle, hopefully she won't drop out after that freakoid convention. Thanks for the heads up, guys.

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If you were STILL a JW where would you be now?

by Thegoodgirl in

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minimus's post got me thinking.

where would i be if i were still a jw?

it's depressing to think about...

Thegoodgirl

Loves2B: of course we're all offended, but (if I remember correctly) the person who posted that, it was their "1 of 1" post, so someone just made up a quick name, signed themselves on, JUST to pi$$ everyone off. Don't take them seriously. If AM married to someone of another race, and damnit, my kids will be beautiful too!

Where would I be??? Hmm, taking advantage of the twighlight hours to do "evening witnessing", studying for the endless Thursday night meeting (bible reading, all scriptures inspired book, reasoning book, WT article, then move on to the OUr Kingdom Ministry articles, and if you're any kind of a spiritual person, you will look up all the non quoted scriptures too.) Married to a Jdub I guess. Probably no kids, and certainly depressed "but not even knowing it" as someone else said. Thank god you guys all got out, who were suicidal. Here's to those who didn't, may they rest in peace.

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Does the WTS disfellowship mentally challenged people?

by Elsewhere in

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has anyone ever seen a situation where the wts disfellowhiped someone who is autistic, retarded or otherwise mentally challenged?.

i wonder if the elders give them more leeway knowing that they are not always capable of making decisions as well as a normal person.. .

Thegoodgirl

Iron: YOu're absolutely right!

(My sister was just slipping into her delusions when she got baptized. She had held out as the last of the "youth" in the congregation to not get baptized, but suddenly took the plunge at 17 years old.)