Posts by Thegoodgirl

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Underground Reformed JW movement

by RealNewLight in

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this is a movement which has been growing slowly but steadily among young people in spanish and portuguese speaking congregations in the united states.

basically it is a movement created by winesses who believe in much of the teachings of the organization, but do not believe in the authority of the wts, or any other body.

they also do not believe in disfellowshiping, and believe that every decision should be a personal conscience matter.

Thegoodgirl

This is a good first step to gettiing out of the organization. I think, though, that this is sort of a phase that lasts about 3 months, where you say, "Gee, I wish things were more flexible, I wish I could raise a question here about birthdays, or everything is just perfect EXCEPT that one little part about disfellowshipping. That's the only thing I just don't totally agree with."

Then later, when you decide in your mind that you will doubt that one thing, you start to losen their powerful controlling grip on your mind. Suddenly you allow yourself to do things like go to college, go out with worldly people, and then suddenly the whole JW thing just falls apart in your mind, and your realize it's okay. No big deal. No lighteninig bolt will strike.

SO, keep going with the reforming thing if that's what is workinig for you, it will help you and other people take that first step of questioning things.

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JW - Teen Suicide

by Mystery in

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http://www.newsregister.com/news/story.cfm?story_no=201011

y-c hit with second suicide.

published: november 19, 2005. by paul daquilante.

Thegoodgirl

That's so so sad. Very exact similar situation in our KH 9 years ago. I wouldn't say it was the parents fault, but of course the strict religious environment in which we were brought up, I think does contribute to guilt at never living up to these high standards, and no excuse for not doing so. No way to back out. I'm so sorry for the family, and the congregation too.

Cote, Chkowski, Florida

by Thegoodgirl in

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hey, i haven't been here in a while, but reading over some of the posts (especially those about being disfellowshipped/reproved according to the local rules of the congo instead of "repentant" or not) got me fondly remembering the little fights/conflicts in my hometown congregation, and wondering if those families who put up with it are still in the organization or are sitting here venting about their unfair past.

so the names of the families in the subject line should ring a bell to anyone from my hometown congregation.. at any rate, always good to see new names on the board.

more leaving, more getting help.. happy thanksgiving everyone, enjoy.

Thegoodgirl

Hey, I haven't been here in a while, but reading over some of the posts (especially those about being disfellowshipped/reproved according to the local rules of the congo instead of "repentant" or not) got me fondly remembering the little fights/conflicts in my hometown congregation, and wondering if those families who put up with it are still in the organization or are sitting here venting about their unfair past. So the names of the families in the subject line should ring a bell to anyone from my hometown congregation.

At any rate, always good to see new names on the board. More leaving, more getting help.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, enjoy.

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thinking positively - what is the best thing that happened to you or ...

by Crumpet in

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that you accomplished in the last 24 hours?.

i ask becase i just keep reading lots of gripey posts (with good reason for sure, but i wanted to hear positive stuff no matter how mediocre or ordinary it might sound).. so tell me what was your highspot?

Thegoodgirl

I cleaned my house. It's never clean, really, but I had a clean-sttreak this morning and cleaned for two hours. It was semi-clean. Got out early from work, Then found out hubby's friend was coming over tonight to see the house, so I finished cleaning in one more hour this evening. I look at it, wow, i want to live here! Feels great, I feel normal.

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Well today is the day

by outoftheorg in

today at 3 pm i will take donna to the hospital for her examination.she is putting up a good front but i can tell that she is really scared about the possible outcome.. being a nurse for years, one gathers up a lot of knowledge and she does know a lot about the body and its failures.. she is scared and i am terrified.

her three sons and family will be there also.

so i won't be alone.. my few children in this area are still jw's and do not give a crap about me or donna being ill.. so they won't be there.

Thegoodgirl

Outof Org and Donna,

I am sending good thoughts your way. So sorry this has happened, Donna. I do hope your recovery is complete and that you have as much support as you need from your friends there in the NOrthwest. I'm thinking of you, a fellow nurse.

GoodGirl

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SCHIZOPHRENIA + JWS = ??

by lisaBObeesa in

i really am upset right now, and for a wide variety of reasons.

but number one on my list right now is my worry about my aunt.

my aunt is schizophrenic and obviously off her meds.

Thegoodgirl

Lisa, I totally hear you. I'm sort of dealing with this one too in my family. A certain member of the fam has a schiz.-type disorder, and mom has recently started communicating with her again. Mom is thinking it's the demons, and doubts the medical knowledge that it's genetic, and a physiological problem. The rest of us are trying to convince mom of the truth about schiz., but mom isn't sure. IT'S SO ANNOYING! How can you blatantly doubt facts?

So now that mom is talking to her, she is telling her to just come back to the truth to get rid of demons. Mom also says to us that she just wishes this relative could get off some of her meds because she's heard of the terrible side effects. Yes there are horrible side effects, but the alternative is stuff like your aunt is going through, Lisa, the suicide attempts, and absolutely dangerous and out of control behavior. I just want to say, I hear ya, and let's just keep trying to get the message through of the importance of these meds......!!!!!!......

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TAMPON RETENTION & RESULTS

by outoftheorg in

i have never heard of this before, but i think it is worth knowing.. i have come across a rather strange story.

yes it is legitimate and some details are left out to protect this persons identity.. this lady is having problems in her feet and hands.

the doctors find that gangrene is setting in.. it is decided that the legs up to the knees must be removed to stop the spread of septic infection.. the fingers are also to be removed because the infections are starting in the extremities.. it is discovered that a tampon has been left in the vagina for a long time.

Thegoodgirl

Well, earlier symptoms would be a very foul odor from your vagina and an unusual vaginal discharge. I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but I read about that last semester. ONe thing they stress to the doctors/nurse practitioners is that if you do have the patient on the table for the vaginal exam, and note that there is a tampon that had been left in for a long time, and thus this is the source of their vaginal symptoms, they stress that you have a bowl of water and when you pull the tampon out of the woman IMMEDIATELY submerge it in water and then remove it and flush it down the toilet asap DUE TO THE SMELL that may embarass the patient. Ew.

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Describe your first thoughts upon hearing the 1914 generation 'new light'

by kid-A in

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we all remember where we were and what we were thinking during highly significant events....(e.g.

9-11, jfk, etc)..... if you can recall, what were the first thoughts racing through your mind as you sat at the 1995 d.c. at the infamous 1914 generation change announcement, was it "the final nail in the coffin of your wts beliefs or did you engage in mental gymnastics to try to assimilate the "fresh meat in due season" lol....... i was in such shock at this announcement, i think my mind just blanked out for 10 minutes followed by: "ok, this really is it for me......they have duped us all along", i then immediately started thinking of my 90 year old jw grandmother sitting in the stadium, and what must have been going through her mind......

Thegoodgirl

There was a real crisis in my mind at the time, I was in late teens, I think, and trying to decide what I believed. Had already had sheparding calls due to my "doubting". I thought to myself, "If this whole thing is a bunch of crap, then what will they do when the last 1914 person dies off. Will all the JWs just leave? No, they'll have to change their theory on that. Gee, if they actually ever changed that theory, then I'll KNOW for sure it's a bunch of hogwash." And sure enough, not long after thinking that, they did indeed change the theory. I was like, "That's it, that's my ticket, I'm outta here." And I smiled, said I had to go off to school, but will be sure not to miss even one meeting, and never went back.

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Drag Queen visits a Kingdom Hall

by Nick in

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here is betty butterfield and her jw experience:.

http://www.bohnsplace.com/betty_butterfield/jwgays.mov.

Thegoodgirl

OH MY GOD! Boy, you are so crazy, that was so funny.

And Brenda, me too! I felt like I was at the door and some crazy woman was talking to me and all I can do is stand there and be polite.

Goodgirl

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response to 'older men dating teenagers/lolita'

by girl_interrupted in

hey guys.

i feel deeply for wanderlustguy, when he describes what his father was like with young girls....incidentally, the reason i was disfellowshipped (among other things) was because i had an affair with a much older 'brother' in the cong.

i was just 14 at the time, and being naive and completely under his influence, i believed myself to completely in love with him and believed he felt the same way for me.

Thegoodgirl

Welcome, Girl Interrupted. I'm so sorry that you were treated that way. Look forward to hearing more from you.