What is a useful rule of thumb for having 'broken free mentally'?
Posts by rmt1
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Is The Watchtower Spawning An Entire Industry Of Freedom Fighters?
by Narcissistic Supply in167,000 people cast off annually by the jw's; the number of broken and destroyed families grows to the millions?28 million dollars defending child endangerment?
are you kidding me?10's of millions "mentally diseased apostates" undermining the real estate laundering corporation?800 million in real estate sold in brooklyn *recently* by the jw ficticious business name statement?jehovah witness corporation crawling on its belly like a reptile to upstate new york?big money to be made eating the eyeballs out of the corporation?new tales of jw horror published daily?
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JWs Just Don't Want To Think....
by minimus inthey don't want to think about their past, present or future.. they ignore any obvious weakness in "the truth".. they won't question their leader's viewpoints.. they will follow what the governing body (the faithful & discreet slave) says even if they flipflop a hundred times.. it's embarrassing to see millions of people refuse to think.. the only silver lining is that many of us were just like the witnesses of today.
there is hope!.
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rmt1
They are a terrified population under the boot of para-military hope-dealers who hold all blood relatives and social contacts mutually hostage in part and in whole. The population does not have the protected right to bear the self-defense of critical thought. They do not have the protected right to critically examine cause and effect. They do not have the protected right to retain in perpetuity their own data archives and test that data for drift, trends, systematic biases, precision, accuracy. They to not have the protected right to observe, hypothesize, re-observe, model, draw conclusions and share their own results.
I just got my second degree at 39yo, a BS Astronomy. In this field, and assuredly in any scientific field, there are many analogues and equivalents of the book study, the ministry school, the visiting Sunday speaker, the circuit assemblies and district conventions. One weekly meeting, called Journal Club, is where the apponted people, grad students and profs, pick out and present what they thought were the high points of this or that research paper, and are prepared to answer basic questions from the non-presenting round table. Another type of meeting, more than once a week, has a visiting speaker present their research, and not seldom must face a firey barrage of questions from a dubious, learned, professional, qualified, skeptical, and, fearless, audience. I've now been to two conferences of the American Astronomical Society. If you're headed up the ladder, if you need to network, if you need to present a talk or a poster, why, you dress full suit and tie or business jacket/blouse/heels, etc. If you're there to chillax and enjoy the proceedings, jeans and sneakers will do just fine. The keynote addresses are by speakers who are being honored for specific, unique contributions to science, and these are the solemn talks where science comes as close as it ever will to a system of belief or a devout cause in an of itself. Many other talks by intense, youthful, fired up post-docs and grad students. For lunch you connect with old or new faces and regale each other with experiences in science and anticipations of new science. The holy spirit of this kind of thing, the air that animates, is the quite verifiable fact that you are participating in an actual journey into the unknown, that you are planting torches in the cave to guide you back and to guide new ones in, and that there are surprises around the corner that you did not conceive or prepare for.
I challenge any terrified JW reading this to read just one short article on extrasolar planets.
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The Wt. is right we are mentally diseased
by TotallyADD inwe are mentally diseased in ways that most normal people cannot understand.
it does bare asking " what part did the wt.
have in causing this problem?
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rmt1
My priority is to make the future not just a better place but a place where there are substantial numbers of humans who cannot be held hostage into an addiction to cartoon zoos (false) and cartoon genocide (collectively sociopathic), let alone an addiction to cartoon crepuscular rays of Brooklyn (worshippers of men). I am ill at ease not using any strengths or gifts to mindfully warn humans who are still yet outside the event horizon of that torture chamber. It took me from 14 to 25 to climb out of the abyss of cowardice, fear (two different things), and ignorance.
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Why do all the COs have food intolerances/allergies/special dietary requirments?
by Julia Orwell init's a well known phenomenon i've observed from jwn, my own cos. a new co we had once who was fresh from being a normal elder and after a couple of visits he said, "well i've finally become a true co...i now have food intolerances.".
i mean, only once did my husband and i ever have a co around for dinner and they couldn't eat this, he couldn't eat that, she couldn't eat this...it was so hard to cook something with none of the zillions of things they were 'allergic' to.. and then after all that the wife couldn't come anyway because she had a naturopath appointment or something.. why do all co's seem to have weird dietary problems?.
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rmt1
I saw it in the central Pennsylvania / Grantville circuit. Effete, learn'ed, travel'ed, experience'd, selective, elegant, discretionary, discriminating. In a word, better than you.
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Intro - First time Post- Ventilation (it's a good read actually)
by BLWashington incurrently from houston, tx, but spent most of my life in chicago.
i've never had an opportunity to just get this out... so i apologize for the long-windedness in advance... .
i spent the first 17 years of my life in a jw home, then the real world caught up to me.
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rmt1
Epic intro. Made me think of The Forgotten (2004) with Julianne Moore.
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GUESS What I Can Enjoy Now, That Being In WT Kept Me From?
by Iown Mylife inbarbershop harmony singing groups!
i've enjoyed that type of music since i first heard it as a kid.
just today ran onto a local group that welcomes visitors.
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rmt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpm3EGJlHF4
FRED - I Got Rhythm (barbershop)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8
Straight No Chaser - 12 Days (a cappella)
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rmt1
I doubt present JW conventioners experience as much dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and endorphins as before 2000. It's clear as day that 13 years since then is going to be 14 years since then. Then you got yer 15 years since then, and pretty soon, it's 20 years since 2000, and what have you got? It's murder in slow motion. oooooo I recommend Marooned in Realtime (Vernor Vinge, 1986)
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I really need some help to get out of this religion
by doughnutkitty inhi, i've been lurking on this site for quite a while after recently having doubts about the "truth".
i've read a lot of posts about problems with the doctrines, mind control, the beliefs, brainwashing that jehovah's witnesses and their literature, as well as their history.
now only being a sixteen year old born in who isn't baptized or unbaptized, i've come to find all this information incredibly overwhelming.
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rmt1
Depending on their own age, retirement planning, fiscal foresight, you may be able to say, >without saying<, that it is prudent to have the resources to help out family members in times of need. Do not refer to >them<, but point to local / KH / anecdotal elderly folks on limited income with no help from family. Perform this naively, and don't openly represent that you imagine they will grow old in this system. Aging JWs already worry about this, and your avoiding the point allows them to see this fiscally responsible you as an ally. Of course, stay off the JW's fine-tuned radar for indescretions, or you lose the advantage of that alliance.
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I really need some help to get out of this religion
by doughnutkitty inhi, i've been lurking on this site for quite a while after recently having doubts about the "truth".
i've read a lot of posts about problems with the doctrines, mind control, the beliefs, brainwashing that jehovah's witnesses and their literature, as well as their history.
now only being a sixteen year old born in who isn't baptized or unbaptized, i've come to find all this information incredibly overwhelming.
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rmt1
I woke up at 14 but institutional/structural ignorance and cowardice (a coin, those two) kept me in till 25.
Something I didn't see mentioned: Arrange where possible to meet the parents of your non-JW friends. Display maturity, trustworthiness and a sense of knowing, self-aware acknowledgement that you are honoring your parents and honoring your parents' roof. I.e., give indication that you are smart enough not to be owned by this cult, but that you are also smart enough not to give grounds of wrongdoing to suspicion. In fewer words, use this time to network outside the KH. Build links and connections that will save you and can lead to inside opportunities, jobs, advance notice of certain resources. Growing your list of allies is crucial. At the same time, you must beware that allies can out you, inadvertently or otherwise.
To stay above JW suspicion of waywardness, dress well, stay 'professional', stay respectful of the JW adults, and demonstrate real-world knowledge that adults who live in the real world must possess in order to survive. Car, job, bills. GET THEM, or their analogues in degree of responsibility. The sneer that some JW adults would wish to cast on you will be reflected back on them. And, while you are still in, some other JW adults may actually say you are 'mature for your age'. If you escape the JWs with everything intact, as well as advanced skill sets for your age, you will be taking with you the hopes and dreams of many who are helplessly and quite knowingly in that prison for life. -
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In Case You Had Any Doubts About Dinosaurs
by metatron inhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/15/tyrannosaurus-rex-really-was-a-ferocious-hunter-new-finding-confirms/.
nature red in tooth and claw.
if jehovah is the creator of all, he made some very vicious, nasty stuff.
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