one fb friend posted the faq link about "why dont jw's celebrate xmas?
" after reading the link i concluded that it is either another collossal lie the wt is telling, or it is now ok to celebrate x-mas!.
from jw.org faq:.
http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/why-not-celebrate-christmas/
Upon reflection, I see I hastily reacted to this and got it wrong. I read the FAQ and the GB is simply baldly and flagrantly lying out their pie-hole. Of course they interfere with the private choices of the mentally, emotionally, socio-economically, etc, infirm. A simpler explanation. Whew. The universe is complex but not thoroughly inexplicable.
one fb friend posted the faq link about "why dont jw's celebrate xmas?
" after reading the link i concluded that it is either another collossal lie the wt is telling, or it is now ok to celebrate x-mas!.
from jw.org faq:.
Uh, this flips a hair trigger of mine. I don't know if there's an argumentum latinum pretensiosis for it.
"We do not interfere in the Christmas celebrations of others."
They are claiming a power or capacity or capability to do a thing about what people in the world are already doing, and have been doing, for centuries or decades, depending on the custom. This is consistent with their making themselves the center of the known universe and the center of time.
If a freshman science student were to test out this claim using metrics that quantify momentum transfer between the thermal exhalation of a JW at a door step with some panda cartoons on a beautiful snowy pre-Christmas winter day, and the motions of the householder as they wrap gifts, hang lights, etc, etc, that student would discover, separately and repeatably, in household after household, state after state, to at least the sixth sigma, that JWs do not possess, in the first place, the power or capacity or capability to "interfere in the Christmas celebrations of others", even if they were foaming at the mouth or slouching towards brains or titrating some mad test tubes to attempt to do so. Pretension to influence outside their cult. (Or, the mentally, emotionally, spiritually, psychically, ontologically, socio-economially infirm, which alas is a nontrivial %.)
a friend of mine recently had his co visit and in the elders meeting the co out-right asked the question: how are the friends doing in your cong.
as regards pursuing higher education?
the co continued...you know in view of all the counsel from the slave regarding the dangers.
This first moment I felt like I was really on the right track was when I started the physics degree and the first lab experiment was to drop a ball bearing over and over and record where in a circle it landed. This was Gaussian statistics, normal distribution, a bell curve. I was a freshman. It was me interrogating, to the extent of my own experimental resources, time and degree of precision, an assertion by authority. I was testing the veracity of what the authority had asserted. LO! The authority, in this one instance, had been correct. The authority, in this one instance, had been telling the truth. The Truth about the Truth of Gaussian statistics, normal distribution, or bell curve, was that it had been correct and true all along, and I could separately reproduce that fact, at will, day or night, January or Tuesday, wearing chartreuse or knit slippers, eating green ham or checking the mail. It was a fact that permeated the entire realm and reach of my senses, it lay beneath and behind my reality, it was a fact that didn't give a flying rat's ass if I knew it or not.
Later in that lab we tested that authoritarian assertion that gravity's acceleration is 9.8m/s/s. You know what they say about scientists and NASA engineers who managed to land a man on the moon, accidentally, 12 times - They are talking out their asses with worldly knowledge and they don't really know what they're talking about and they lack the wisdom of Jehovah that leads to everlasting life. I didn't test that far, but we rolled things of a certain mass down slopes and recorded velocities and calculated transfer of potential energy to kinetic energy and LO!!!!! ZOMG!!!!!! The authority, in this Other one instance, had been correct. Gravity at the surface of earth is 9.8m/s/s, and we proved it, individually, using some basic materials, at will, separately, reproducibly, day or night, January or Tuesday, wearing chartreuse or knit slippers, eating green ham or checking the mail.
GB cannot suffer young minds learning how to test. To test, in the infinitive. The god of the JWs says 'Do not test me.' That god is anti-science. Science is the relentless, belligerent, unapologetic attack on what is known to be unknown, what is known to have possibly changed, what is known to have possibly been misunderstood.
for the last several years a number of things have been coalescing to make deeper space exploration and colonization possible and even feasible.
it seems that the velocity of such endeavors has really increased the last couple of years.
big things are in the works such as:.
Thank you to everyone that is thinking of a human future where the economic sphere expands in volume. I recommend NasaSpaceFlight.com. Thespacereview.com is also accessible. And remember, it does not belong to man who is walking on the moon to even direct his first giant leap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=cj6ho1-g6tw&vq=medium.
genesis 11:6.
"nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them "
Nothing invokes the necessity of quoting a 2000 year old sheepskin, and thereby invoking the appeal to belief in The One True Right Honorable Left Grand Mighty God, Esquire, like seeing a skilled homo sapien in his prime converting potential energy to kinetic energy and back again while conserving angular momentum while exploiting friction to maintain mass balance over a fulcrum while using a machine of lightweight modern materials.
Can I believe my eyes? Sure. The end of a corporate sponsorship is product or service placement. The means by which the viewer is to be lulled into an identification with the product (Red Bull or Remington) is to capture in extreme verisimilitude the best of the best of the best individual painstaking takes, and synthesize the pretense that it was the only take required, using a lullaby ballad of some contemporary apostles of the casual, and using camera jibs, booms, and cranes to produce a surreal dislocating flotation of spirit, while staging the feat in a picturesque locale that ports some historical mythos while also offering a challenging arena for displays of man versus nature that supercede and therefore leverage and appropriate that mythos. If I hear someone portraying something arduous (amazing physical prowess) by something casual (ballad), my suspiscion is triggered that something is being sold. What I do not trust are my ears.
though he is a typical wt slave, we are like david and jonathan.. in my most intimate conversation with him, i asked him:.
how do you manage serving an organization built on inherent contradictions?.
he said: organization helps people to grow spiritual, like any other religious organizations do.
there always seemed to be a level of unspoken competition within the congregation.
wether it be between elders, ms, pioneers, etc... who's kids are doing more, who gets more hours out, who comments the most or the best, who gives the best parts, whos kids are the best, who has the better car, who has the better house, who has the better job and so on... it's not openly discussed but you can discern it through conversations, sometimes you can hear undertones of jealousy or meddling in others business, this always bothered me!
if this is gods organization whats with all the jealousy and competiton, i would see other religions or organizatons with less of these issues and question it!.
It's a capitalist system with a thin veneer of social net. The only real currency is 'probability' of being saved at Armageddon. 'Money' is merely a medium of preaching work.
enjoying the commentary on this board and up at night doing some research.
coming to grips with my new reality.
- hokey pokey.
JWs also do the limbo. How lowwwwwwwWWWWw can your standard of evidence or custody of data or understanding of the scientific method or degree of critical thinking Go?
And the chicken dance.
i here that the new advisory for witnesses, should the go on the internet is to only go on the org.
the org.
is all they are concerned about since "others" may have some "misinformation"..
JWST is James Webb Space Telescope. Direct some people there. It witnesses Jehovah's creation (or, what it out in the universe, period) far better than 8 farts in an octagon.
so bring it on, and lay the evidence on me, kate (but perhaps you should start a new thread).-adam.
it does not prove god exists, there is no substantial evidence god is real.
if one is a self labeled atheist, one has no desire to see gods fingerprints in organic chemistry.
