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  Completing the Scan of All WT Publications - Bibles List

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  i am working with paul grundy from jwfacts and with the administrator of avoidjw.org, and they are ok with me doing the work that i am doing right now, which is to try and complete, as much as possible, the availability of everything the wt has ever published, in pdf format.therefore, i will start listing in this thread what i have not been able to find anywhere online.

  please let me know where i can find the pdf's for the following:(now, i know that there are multiple versions of these and that there are some that seem the same but they are not.

  i am looking for the wt published versions of these publications.

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  blondie

  What an undertaking, and a sacrifice by you.
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  Stephen Lett’s Favorite Color

  by Iamallcool in

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  i just noticed that stephen lett’s favorite color is blue.

  he usually wear blue ties but not all the time.

  just an observation on my part.

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  blondie

  In some places, blue is considered a color associated closely with heaven...he's anointed (or claims to be) and is expecting to go home to heaven when he dies. haha
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  I pioneered brothers parked their BMW and got aride in my 20 year old car?? No support.

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. experiences

  so i pioneered for 10 years in the 1990's it was 90 hours a month with alot of country driving.

  i was shocked when brothers and sisters with full time jobs would park their brand new cars and go witnessing in my 20 year old orange datsun.

  i was barely living on $250 a week as a yeah...window cleaner.

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  blondie

  I remember going to a circuit assembly in the same circuit Bethelites attended from the farm. The circuit overseer got up and brought up the point that jws with nice cars did not want to use them in "preaching" because their car might get messed up and they did not want the wear and tear on their car. He counseled these people that they should use their own car, gas, and run up "wear and tear" on their car not the literally "poor" pioneer, these people with the nice cars were missing an opportunity to do good to their "brothers." But see there were a lot of Bethelites in those congregations, many who did not have nice cars and not the income to support the cost of gas...I wondered how that worked out?
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  Hi again

  by Lee Marsh in

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  it is nice to see some familiar faces here.

  for those who don't know who i am my last id was lady lee.

  thought i would drop by and say hello; see how people are doing.

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  blondie

  Nice to see you back. We are about the same age, time marches on.
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  I got robbed this morning!

  by Iamallcool in

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  first of all… i am ok. i was robbed at the gas station this morning.

  after my hands stopped trembling, i managed to call the police.

  they were quick to respond and calmed me down, but all my money is gone.

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  blondie

  Ice-T?
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  Watchtower Dishonesty aka Theocratic Warfare

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.

  here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.

  helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!

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  blondie

  Great answers
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  venting: My wife is the most dangerous kind of JW

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  i need to vent again here.

  because i have no one else to talk with and no one who really understands except for the people here.

  my wife is the most dangerous kind of jw.

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  blondie

  truth_b_known

  Actually, in only one place does the WTS put a different spin on Acts 17:10,11 showing that the Bereans approach was not the same for baptized jws.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1981127?q=acts+17%3A10%2C11&p=sen

  A NOBLE-MINDED VIEW

  How shall we view the spiritual food provided by this “faithful and discreet slave”? Should it be viewed critically​—‘Oh, well, it might be true but then again it might not be and so we have to scrutinize it very critically’? Some apparently have felt that way about it. To support their way of thinking they have quoted Acts 17:11, which says of newly interested persons at Beroea: “Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.”

  But does this mean that those Beroeans were looking for flaws in the message they were hearing, or that their attitude was one of doubting? Does this set a precedent for regarding critically the publications brought forth by the “faithful and discreet slave,” with a view to finding fault? Not at all!

  First of all, let us note the setting of the statement about the noble-minded Beroeans. Paul, accompanied by Silas, was on his second missionary tour. Due to persecution that arose, the brothers at Thessalonica sent them on to Beroea. In Beroea they met sincere Jews who had strong faith in God’s Word. These were not Christians yet. They were simply interested persons who had to satisfy themselves that what Paul was telling them had the support of the Hebrew Scriptures.

  Up to this time, these devout Jews in Beroea may never have heard of Jesus Christ. What Paul was telling them was entirely new. So those noble-minded Jews in Beroea searched the Scriptures daily to make certain that the references that Paul gave were really part of God’s Word. And with what mental attitude did they pursue their studies? With a skeptical attitude, trying to prove Paul wrong? No, they were altogether unlike Paul’s critics on Mars Hill, for we read that they heard Paul’s testimony with “the greatest eagerness of mind.”​—Acts 17:11, 32.

  These Beroeans listened with a readiness, yes, an eagerness, to believe. Thus not only were they open-minded, but they were wanting to have this “good news” proved true. In fact, for a person to acquire faith he must have “the will to believe.” If he is determined not to believe, then no amount of evidence will convince him; for if a person looks for them he can always find excuses, plausible reasons for not accepting the accountability that belief will bring upon him. As the apostle Paul well said: “Faith is not a possession of all people.” (2 Thess. 3:2) But the Beroeans had the will to believe. They considered what they heard with a receptive frame of mind. As a result, “many of them became believers, and so did not a few of the reputable Greek women and of the men.”​—Acts 17:12.

  Jesus’ disciples wrote many letters to Christian congregations, to persons who were already in “the way of the truth.” (2 Pet. 2:2) But nowhere do we read that those brothers first, in a skeptical frame of mind, checked the Scriptures to make certain that those letters had Scriptural backing, that the writers really knew what they were talking about.

  OUR VIEW OF THE “SLAVE”

  We can benefit from this consideration. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his “slave” to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. We should have confidence in the channel God is using. At the Brooklyn headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah’s Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the “remnant” and of the “other sheep,” than anywhere else upon earth.

  True, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah’s Witnesses subscribe. Over the years, as adjustments have been made to that body of truth, it has become ever more wonderful and applicable to our lives in these “last days.” Bible commentators of Christendom are not inspired either. Despite their claims to great knowledge, they have failed to highlight even basic Bible truths​—such as the coming Paradise earth, the importance of God’s name, and the condition of the dead.

  Rather, the record that the “faithful and discreet slave” organization has made for the past more than 100 years forces us to the conclusion that Peter expressed when Jesus asked if his apostles also wanted to leave him, namely, “Whom shall we go away to?” (John 6:66-69) No question about it. We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the “faithful and discreet slave” organization.
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  Yesterday's Watchtower Study (from October issue) "Stay Faithful Through the Gt. Tribulation"

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. bible

  this article has all the trappings of wts apocalyptic theology, doom and destruction for "the world" salvation into paradise for the faithful .a schedule of future events is described thus :.

  1) a worldwide proclamation of peace and security.

  2) the destruction of "babylon the great"......it confidently names the characters from this visionary biblical reference, without any supporting reasons.. 3)the nations will then , as gog of magog , attack the wts and the members .

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  blondie

  Good catch, Blues Brother. I call these words and phrases you bolded, weasel words. It leaves the WTS a way out to say, "we never said it was a sure thing, just possible.:

  Notice par 8;

  "Currently, we are preaching the good news of the Kingdom and we are endeavoring to make disciples. But at that time, we may well deliver a message as hard-hitting as hailstones. (Rev. 16:21) We may proclaim the impending doom of Satan’s world. In time, we will find out exactly what our message will be and how we will deliver it. Will we use the same methods we have used for over a hundred years to accomplish our ministry? Or will we use some other methods? We will have to wait and see. In any case, it seems that we will have the privilege of boldly proclaiming Jehovah’s judgment message"

  Can we be blamed for not accepting a message so full of uncertainties?
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  Stephen Lett

  by NoAbuse in

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  he knows what god wants you to do.. .

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  blondie

  

  Marshall Applewhite

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Applewhite
  
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  The Evolution Of The Watchtower Cult

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. beliefs

  since waking up from the cult i've been curious about where the cult is going and how will it end up?

  will it fizzle out or become a little fringe "religion" like plymouth bretheren or the shakers?.

  we've already seen the cult evolve from:.

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  blondie

  pale emperor, and that is just the short list. The WTS has a listing of Clarifications and Adjustments in the indexes.

  The September 2019 WT study article, Look, a Great Crowd, goes back into the late past of the WTS and the changes in teachings back then and why. It seems strange that they take the chance of bringing up old light. Perhaps the reason is it is too readily available to jws online and causing confusion.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-september-2019/great-crowd/