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  August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.

  august watchtower has finally been leaked.

  disfellowshipping?

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  blondie

  I posted on another OP, I agree, it is just semantics, redefining a word, like "mentally diseased." The WTS does this often, like "overlapping generation" to explain why the lifetime of the anointed can be expanded past the 1914 generation. But members don't dare say anything because they might "be shown the door."
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  blondie

  I think Satan told the first lie based on the bible's account.
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  Why the term "disfellowshipped " was removed

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. experiences

  https://youtu.be/ags07jlopcy?si=g9ra1jqksuuauyax.

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  blondie

  DF replaced with "remove." Just semantics, results just the same in experience. Of course, jws are not being held personally accountable for avoiding such jws, not the WTS, it's a conscience matter (right!)
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  So a JW can date an unbelieving person...

  by silentbuddha in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  but the entire congregation is not to be informed or mark the person.

  the only repercussions are that the individual who is aware of it can decide to "mark" them and not go to the local club or bar with the individual, but they are still obligated to go door to door in the ministry with them, and even speak to them at the kn as if nothing is wrong and not feel obligated to tell anyone else?

  this is crazy.. so they are also basically saying that a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings?

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  blondie

  I agree DOC

  That is a big change.

  a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings

  That is an even bigger change. In the past, a person could be DF for continuing a relationship with an unbeliever (required multiple warnings re: marry only in the Lord). (The jw could only be df'd if evidence of sexual activity between them. But they are being for that offense not dating a non-jw.)
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  Article: Pennsylvania man sentenced amid JW sexual abuse investigation

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-man-sentenced-amid-jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-investigation/.

  (whtm) – a reading man will serve up to 46 years in prison amid the pennsylvania attorney general‘s investigation into alleged sexual abuse of jehovah’s witnesses congregation members.. luis manuel ayala-velasquez, 56, was arrested last year after a grand jury investigation where sexual assault charges were recommended against more than a dozen members of the jehovah’s witnesses faith.. read more: https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-man-sentenced-amid-jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-investigation/.

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  blondie

  I saw this in my morning jw news segment. Yay! May many more be found out and charged and found guilty and sent to prison. (and that's just the elders who conceal those people's crimes). More bad news for the WTS and expensive too.
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  Greeting a person(who was removed from the congregation) at the Kingdom Hall now becomes a matter of conscience

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | august 2024. help for those who are removed from the congregation.

  14 does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation?

  not necessarily.

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  blondie

  Yes, you can "greet" them, the WTS says after they have changed their meaning of greet with a reference to a scripture used before to support not greeting them. Typical WTS ploy.
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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  blondie

  I used to remember some years ago and posted on JWN. Now all I can remember were the kind, nonjudgmental ones, only 2.
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  How Did You Do It?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have any of you here successfully woken up pimi family members or friends and got them out?.

  if so, how did you manage to do that, what was the information that made them jolt up out of their hypnotism?.

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  blondie

  I have helped support their decision to leave. And helped them to readjust to the non-jw world. I have said that it is hard to help PIMIs to get out, they need what I call an AHA moment, when they finally experience the hypocrisy personally, and are confused. Those have become PIMO. But I don't get into a long conversation about the flaws of the WTS. I had doubts but it was about 10 years of still going before I had my AHA moment at a circuit assembly. Just keep it brief and stop when it seems they are getting defensive. I found it is better just to ask thought-provoking question but not supply the answer.
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  Re-activate me?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there was a knock at my door and i thought it was my take-away being delivered.. long story short, it was 2 elders calling to see me.

  i guess to re-activate me.

  once they said who they were i recognised them.

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  blondie

  Yes, no reason to get your blood pressure up. We just wave them away. Yes, they love to visit unannounced! We may get one but we are neither df'd or da'd, just walked way. Good for you.
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  JW Ranking System

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's fairly evident to little old outsider me that the organisation has a class system, perhaps even a caste system.. from what i've read, there seems to not only be an official ranking system (m.s., elder, c.o.

  ) but an unofficial one.

  has anyone ever sat down to figure out what the unofficial ranks are and how they affect the pecking order?

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  blondie

  There were lists like this drawn up by ex-jws, maybe some posted on jws. But I don't know how to search for them.