According to the bible, as interpreted by the WTS and several other so-called Christian religions do claim that Satan told the first lie. As to other historical accounts considered, that is another approach. So, it depends.
Posts by blondie
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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August issue is now up on JW.com
by ozziepost injust a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
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Why the term "disfellowshipped " was removed
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/ags07jlopcy?si=g9ra1jqksuuauyax.
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blondie
A rose by any other name..would stink as well
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Lithuania Rejecting Elevated Religious Recognition of WTS?
by blondie inhere is an article about wts/jws regarding religious recognition in lithuania.
it says it may not be granted at the level the wts applied for partly based on rejecting unarmed alternative service rather than being "drafted.
" can you read it and tell me you come to the same conclusion?
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blondie
Here is an article about WTS/jws regarding religious recognition in Lithuania. It says it may not be granted at the level the WTS applied for partly based on rejecting unarmed alternative service rather than being "drafted." Can you read it and tell me you come to the same conclusion? I understood that jws can accept to do alternative service as a choice without repercussions from the WTS.https://bitterwinter.org/lithuania-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses-what-is-the-matter/
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JW Ranking System
by NotFormer init's fairly evident to little old outsider me that the organisation has a class system, perhaps even a caste system.. from what i've read, there seems to not only be an official ranking system (m.s., elder, c.o.
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has anyone ever sat down to figure out what the unofficial ranks are and how they affect the pecking order?
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blondie
Thanks for finding that FFGhost, I knew there was something older on JWN.
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August issue is now up on JW.com
by ozziepost injust a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
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blondie
Well, I went on WOL just now, and I can't find it on the list of current WTS, jumps from July to September 2024. I am not looking in the right place?
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August issue is now up on JW.com
by ozziepost injust a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
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blondie
"whitewashing the outside of the cup" good analogy from their own bible.
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Marking has it's merits IMO
by enoughisenough init would appear the context about marking has to do with those who are not working to feed themselves, but meddling in others business.
a couple more scrptures to think about.
jesus said not to throw your pearls before swine.
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blondie
Good?...not if you are the one marked, by an individual (it's supposed to be their personal judgment, but then they tell others to do the same) and not using the name...well, the jws excel in gossiping, the real version or their "expanded" one with few facts). It is not a good thing.
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August WT: DF'ing renamed "Removed." AKA: GB re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
by WingCommander inso: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
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blondie
I posted on another OP, I agree, it is just semantics, redefining a word, like "mentally diseased." The WTS does this often, like "overlapping generation" to explain why the lifetime of the anointed can be expanded past the 1914 generation. But members don't dare say anything because they might "be shown the door."
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Who told the first lie?
by nicolaou inthis is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?
god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.
in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.
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blondie
I think Satan told the first lie based on the bible's account.