raymond frantz, evidently they aren't speaking about elders meetings where they start shouting at each other and avoid each other outside that room. Many elder bodies like that over my 50 years. One congregation had 2 elders from another congregation come into "referee." Finally, the WTS made 2 congregations and put the fighting elders in opposite congregations. I even know of congregations that never exchanged speakers, why, because the elder arranging the schedule hated the other elder doing that in the other congregation. One finally died and suddenly after 10 years, speakers started being exchanged....I know many accounts like this. Few jws know what goes on behind closed doors. I remember one 2 where the elder body had taken a vote, where the then congregation overseer did not want the proposal and all the other elders voted for it. The congregation overseer got up at the next service meeting and announced the body had voted against the proposal. One elder stood up in that meeting and said the congregation overseer was lying. Guess who was invited not to be an elder any more.
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24Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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JWs and Christmas
by Rnadomchris83 ini have been lurking around here for years.
i'm not a witness, but my in-laws are.
my wife grew up in it but was never baptized.
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blondie
"Even though Christmas is not the real anniversary of our Lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (Luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our Lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date. We may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "Christmas day."" Zion's Watch Tower 1904 Dec 1 p.364
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Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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blondie
Black Sheep, can you post the hard to find quote in the April 2025 article?
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Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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blondie
Kerry King, can you find and post a link on those UN initiatives?
https://www.uri.org/PPP#:~:text=We%20unite%20to%20heal%20and,set%20forth%20in%20international%20law.
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Making Friends with Babylon the Great: Watchtower’s New Goal
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/iv_uifab-qg?si=ttnajiuizmtqlte9.
it began during the last annual meeting of 2014 and now is trikling down to their watchtower magazines, this new "live and let live" attitude towards people of other faiths, or as they were known as babylon the great soon to be dead in the hands of god members.but it is a new different story, so let's read paragraph 15 from study article 15:.
"jehovah is kind to both the righteous and the unrighteous.
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blondie
Reporting not supporting
Note the WTS dances around again about what interfaith is; interestingly a congregation buying a building once used for religious reasons is not interfaith because it is a "one-time transaction." "Thus, an act of interfaith is that of sharing in worship or of having spiritual communion with other religious organizations." "In working out the details regarding such a purchase, contact with the other party should be kept to a minimum and should be strictly business" WT 2002 10/15 p. 27 https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002767
Note the WTS dances around again about what interfaith; interestingly a congregation buying a building once used for religious reasons is not interfaith because it is a "one-time transaction." "In working out the details regarding such a purchase, contact with the other party should be kept to a minimum and should be strictly business" "Thus, an act of interfaith is that of sharing in worship or of having spiritual communion with other religious organizations." WT 2002 10/15 p. 27 https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002767
Keep in mind that specially selected elders can participate in a forum where other representatives of other religions do the same, it is not a debate. Most often another entity invites jws to participate, but the WTS has to approve and pick the presenter. I can’t find a link specifically to this, but I know from such jw presenters that this is how it works. The WTS carefully monitors what that jw representative will say.
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Former Butler County Jehovah's Witness guilty of sexually assault child
by blondie inhttps://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/butler-county-jehovah-witness-sexual-assault-conviction/ child had mental disability....
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blondie
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/butler-county-jehovah-witness-sexual-assault-conviction/ Child had mental disability...
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Found Anthony Morris out in the wild!!!
by BereanThinker7 inthat was click bait.
did it work?
https://youtu.be/_spl7to0m3y?si=gujblhtzkpy0fvzz .
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blondie
Beth Sarim hahahaha Staying away from pythons
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2025**01**15**Ages For Ministerial Servants and Elders!
by Atlantis in2025-01-15-ages for ministerial servants and elders.. see page 2. .
https://pdfupload.io/docs/1b0b5c00 .
https://imgbox.com/p3a9yjmr.
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blondie
Thanks, Petra. Think of you everyday, and Atlantis.
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How Do JWs Understand Salvation & What Is Needed to Obtain It?
by LauraLynn infrom my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
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blondie
Review of BITE model by Steven Hassan https://freedomofmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/BITE-model.pdf
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Found Anthony Morris out in the wild!!!
by BereanThinker7 inthat was click bait.
did it work?
https://youtu.be/_spl7to0m3y?si=gujblhtzkpy0fvzz .
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blondie
Even from the side and beard, this was not Tony, at least not to me. He must have embarrassed the WTS or didn't obey something that the WTS felt was not being loyal enough. He is laying low. One leaves, they appoint another one as bad if not worse. The only time I saw a GB member leave alive were ones that "embarrassed" the WTS.