Posts by Alwayshere

i have read that fred franz said armageddon would come by/in 2000.... been through search and the cd library but other than quotes of how bad the world will be by then, i cant seem to find anything.. any help?.

oz.

Alwayshere

THE NATIONS SHALL KNOW I AM JEHOVAH- 1971 page 216 "Within our 20th century the battle in the day of Jehovah will begin with Christendom."

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Memorial

by roadrunner4speed in

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friends

for those unaware the memorial has no scriptural basis.

of the 12 men at the last passover not one of them ever said or wrote jesus said "do this in remembrance of me" matthew said jesus blessed the bread and wine and gave the bread and wine to his apostles.

we have paul saying jesus said those words and the writting of luke which everyone needs to read and find out what's missing in his account.

Alwayshere

Maninthemiddle, John 6 :51 "I am the living bread which came down from heaven, if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever." Like you said, Jesus or those who were with him at the last meal never said to keep doing this and now I am thinking it is not nessary. Thanks for bringing this out.

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Memorial

by roadrunner4speed in

jw
friends

for those unaware the memorial has no scriptural basis.

of the 12 men at the last passover not one of them ever said or wrote jesus said "do this in remembrance of me" matthew said jesus blessed the bread and wine and gave the bread and wine to his apostles.

we have paul saying jesus said those words and the writting of luke which everyone needs to read and find out what's missing in his account.

Alwayshere

JW's are taught the 144,000 do not need a resurrection, yet Jesus said at John 6:54 "Who ever eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life and I will resurrect him in the last day. Verse 58 of chapter 6, Jesus said the ones who do this would live forever. The Watchtower Society teaches lies.

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Don't ask questions

by linp24 in

several weeks ago, a witness poster said that the rank and file at his cong were told by elders not to ask questions.

i may have misunderstood what the poster was saying.

has anyone on the forum heard anything like this?

Alwayshere

Watchtower, March1,2006, "...You can not ask argumentive questions that would challenge the authority of those who teach."

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The Watchtower Is Never "Really" Wrong

by minimus in

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no matter what they say, they're never really wrong.

misstatements serve a purpose!

they always reinvent their words or simply deny ever teaching certain things.. the witnesses are not a humble group of christians.

Alwayshere

My son told two elders "Even if I'm right, I'm wrong." He was labeled an Apostate later.

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1914 can be proved wrong now, using the same logic and reasoning, they missed a KEY POINT!

by EndofMysteries in

i'm not saying i even agree with the current reasoning behind the 1914 date, but you can't argue that with jw's, but in my latest research and personal study, i ran into the kryptonite for the 1914 date.

right out of "bible topics for discussion" is "chronology" in which it states 1914 ce ends gentile times.

line of kingom rulers interuppted 607 bce ac 17:24, 25 7:48.

Alwayshere

YOU CANNOT REASON WITH A JW BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REASONABLE.

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Feb 2010 WT

by bobld in

heaven-"man was created to live forever on earth" so it is not natural for 144k to go to heaven.. sabbath-"law covenant given to israel came to an end when jesus' death fulfilled it.so the ten commendments-including the sabbath law-that came to end?

yes".

to me that means all ten including the first one,you shall have no other god's(jehovah) before me.therefore christian have a new law and constitution under jesus christ.big jeh is out of the pix.. gilead.gb member d.s.said to missionaries "get new ones to support the preaching work financially and to obey the slave.must be short of cash.. bob.

Alwayshere

No, they are not short of cash. ISAIAH 56:11 says it well! "They are greedy dogs which can never have enough."