When they first came out my friend bought a Hyundia Excel (very cheap), and we used to tease her about her "Soon-Die"...
But they have improved a lot from those days according to all the reviews I have read, but Kia is not there yet...
ringo5
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Kia or Hyundai?
by confusedjw inkia spectra 5 or hyundai elantra gt hatchback?
any experience with either of these cars?
they both drive great and are much more affordable than the honda and toyotas.
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Tonites BIG GAME!!!!
by Life Is Grand in.
anyone looking forward to the big hockey game tonite???????.
oilers all the way!!!!
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ringo5
I love all sport and it's nice to hear that you are very excited about your team. I have heard of the Stanley Cup but I'm afraid that Hockey, basketball and American football don't register on the radar in the rest of the world.
It's not like we're calling it the WORLD SERIES or the WORLD CUP, like the whole world is involved, but it is the biggest game in hockey.
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Tonites BIG GAME!!!!
by Life Is Grand in.
anyone looking forward to the big hockey game tonite???????.
oilers all the way!!!!
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Weather advisory: The Carolina Hurricanes are soon to be downgraded to a Tropical Depression!
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What a Gorilla and some JW children have in common. (Stilla et al)
by LDH ini've been looking forward to having the time to post this since stilla made her big thread about getting the boot at 22.. i'm a huge fan of national geographic and jane goodall, the "gorillas in the mist" lady.
there was a special about 15 years ago that i remember well, it aired soon after the birth of my daughter.
she basically lived with this whole bunch of gorillas and observed their social behavior.
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sigh,
The point is, the making of sweeping generalizations is better for entertainment value than educational value.(Hence the term "SOME" but as there's a lot of thread-title misreading going on tonight, I imagine you didn't see that.)
what you actually wroteI beleive most JW parents have that same flaw.
Make your point, or *poof* be gone.
Lisa
testy, testy, it's like you've been gang-raped or something... ;) http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/115221/1.ashx -
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What a Gorilla and some JW children have in common. (Stilla et al)
by LDH ini've been looking forward to having the time to post this since stilla made her big thread about getting the boot at 22.. i'm a huge fan of national geographic and jane goodall, the "gorillas in the mist" lady.
there was a special about 15 years ago that i remember well, it aired soon after the birth of my daughter.
she basically lived with this whole bunch of gorillas and observed their social behavior.
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I beleive most JW parents have that same flaw.
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What a Gorilla and some JW children have in common. (Stilla et al)
by LDH ini've been looking forward to having the time to post this since stilla made her big thread about getting the boot at 22.. i'm a huge fan of national geographic and jane goodall, the "gorillas in the mist" lady.
there was a special about 15 years ago that i remember well, it aired soon after the birth of my daughter.
she basically lived with this whole bunch of gorillas and observed their social behavior.
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You obviously missed the point (insert Face with upward looking eyes here), it was not Jane Goodall who associated JW parents with gorillas, it was you, (insert insult here as substitute for logical argument).
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What a Gorilla and some JW children have in common. (Stilla et al)
by LDH ini've been looking forward to having the time to post this since stilla made her big thread about getting the boot at 22.. i'm a huge fan of national geographic and jane goodall, the "gorillas in the mist" lady.
there was a special about 15 years ago that i remember well, it aired soon after the birth of my daughter.
she basically lived with this whole bunch of gorillas and observed their social behavior.
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What a lot of wisdom can be gleaned from observing nature and comparing ourselves with it...
*** w61 12/15 p. 767 Questions from Readers ***
• How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?
When a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind. Young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos. If they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the matter of sex, a boy and a girl are likely to become too familiar and to engage in what is popularly called petting or necking. They may practice this for a time and see no bad results. However, the time will come when there will be great danger in such actions. Why? In answer to this question, we can learn about nature and sex from the bovine family of mammals, both wild and tame.
Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow’s horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed. The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However, when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.
If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the results of its operation.
As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the “boy friend” that causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of just one sex experience of this kind.
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Celebrated WT scholars? :)
by Augustin inprof lester l. grabbe on rolf furuli's "oslo chronology":.
"once again we have an amateur who wants to rewrite scholarship" (jsot 28:5 [2004], p. 42).. ...celebrated wt scholars?
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Ok, so here is my review of "scholars" performance so far in this thread...
Once again we have an amateur who wants to rewrite scholarship. "scholars’s" expertise is admittedly unknown in terms of Semitic languages, and I'm sure he would admit, ‘My disadvantage is that I am neither a professional archaeoastronomer nor a historian’. This has not deterred him from supporting some radical re-interpretations of Achaemenid-period chronology and putting it forward boldly as an ‘Oslo chronology’. Part of the redating he supports is fairly modest: he accepts the beginning and end of Achaemenid rule according to the standard dating, and puts the beginning of Darius I’s reign only one year later than is conventional.
Gifted amateurs have sometimes revolutionized scholarship, notably M. Ventris and Linear B. But Ventris was willing to work with specialists such as J. Chadwick whereas "scholar" shows little evidence of having put his theories to the test with specialists in Mesopotamian astronomy and Persian history. Perhaps the most telling point is his rather naive argument that the 70 years of Judaean captivity must be a literal 70 years of desolation of the land because some biblical passages make such a statement. Proof of his statements are promised; we shall see if it is any more convincing.
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Celebrated WT scholars? :)
by Augustin inprof lester l. grabbe on rolf furuli's "oslo chronology":.
"once again we have an amateur who wants to rewrite scholarship" (jsot 28:5 [2004], p. 42).. ...celebrated wt scholars?
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Wow! I usually don't have the patience to slog through any of these threads, but I'm glad I got as far as I did on this one.
This sequence just confirms to me how JW apologist's can completely distort another writer's viewpoint, or in this case, claim exactly the opposite of that same viewpoint!
First we have scholar's claim:I have this day a copy of the Book Review of Furuli's brilliant research by Lester Grabbe and as usual none of the posters on this forum have bothered to pursue further your rather abbreviated introductory comment on Furuli. Apostates go only for the sensational and are not interested in exploring the issues at any length.
What you fail to mention is that Grabble acknowledges Furuli's scholarship and seemingly credits him as a 'gifted amateur'. Also, Grabbe confirms the fact that the some scriptures confirm that the 70 years was a period of desolation which very nicely overturns the Jonsson apostate noinsense.
By the way when are apostates going to urge Jonsson to have work peer reviewed as Furuli as appropriately done? I fear that cowardice is the nature and spirit of apostates.
scholar JW
Then, AlanF follows up by posting what Grabble ACTUALLY wrote:Journal for the Study of the Old Testament 28.5 (2004)
FURULI, ROLF, Persian Chronology and the Length of the Babylonian Exile of the Jews Assyrian, Babylonian, Egyptian and Persian Chronology Compared with the Chronology of the Bible, 1 (Oslo: R. Furuli A/S [[email protected]], 2003), pp. 251. n.p. ISBN 82-994633-3-5.)
Once again we have an amateur who wants to rewrite scholarship. F.’s expertise is admittedly in Semitic languages, and his PhD (in progress) is on the Hebrew verbal system. He notes, ‘My disadvantage is that I am neither a professional archaeoastronomer nor a historian’. This has not deterred him from making some radical re-interpretations of Achaemenid-period chronology and putting it forward boldly as an ‘Oslo chronology’. Part of his redating is fairly modest: he accepts the beginning and end of Achaemenid rule according to the standard dating, and puts the beginning of Darius I’s reign only one year later than is conventional. He argues, however, that the first 11 years of Xerxes’ reign overlap with the last 11 of Darius, and that Artaxerxes I came to the throne in 475 BCE and ruled 51 years. (F. has indeed found the interesting fact that a couple of tablets have the years ‘50’ and ‘51’ for Artaxerxes, but he admits that overwhelmingly tablets make 41 his last year and none is found between 41 and 50, suggesting the obvious: a scribal error.) Gifted amateurs have sometimes revolutionized scholarship, notably M. Ventris and Linear B. But Ventris was willing to work with specialists such as J. Chadwick whereas F. shows little evidence of having put his theories to the test with specialists in Mesopotamian astronomy and Persian history. Perhaps the most telling point is his rather naive argument that the 70 years of Judaean captivity must be a literal 70 years of desolation of the land because some biblical passages make such a statement. A second volume is promised; we shall see if it is any more convincing.
L.L. GRABBE
It's just astounding how someone can call white black and black white....Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
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A Kind and Loving God
by Dr Jekyll ina number of people have asked where i disappeared to and why i stopped posting.
so that i dont have to keep typing the reason out im putting it here.
it might just make some of you think about what a loving god you serve.
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Your experience brought me to tears, and am so sorry you had to say goodbye to one so young and innocent. I've never had this experience first hand as you or the parents have had, so I can't really comprehend what it feels like.
I can only echo JT's comment that perhaps you are the better person to have known Tyler than not, and that we can only learn how precious and precarious life is from such experiences.
I thank you for posting, but hope that you rid yourself of that one destructive emotion, hate toward a non-existent god, and remember Tyler for what the beautiful boy that he was, and the chance you had to know him....
(((Matt)))