Posts by slimboyfat

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Mormon apostate gives testimony in church

by barry in

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https://youtu.be/092o_pyo7sg it seems the mormons are fairly civil with their apostates.

slimboyfat

I think Mormons are more relaxed about dissent because their church has made a better effort at countering criticism and addressing difficult topics than Watchtower. So if someone stands up and complains, there is an attitude, “we’ve heard all that before, it’s old news”. Whereas if a JW speaks up about 607, Rutherford, UN, Malawi/Mexico, two witness rule, blood, and the rest, many JWs are going to be like, “say, what!?” And look in vain for official Watchtower responses.

Over the past few years the Mormon church has made efforts to produce official responses on controversial issues such as historical polygamy, racism, character of Joseph Smith, dubious Book of Mormon history and so on. Mormon missionaries are now generally at least aware of most controversial topics, so they don’t come as a complete surprise if confronted about them. Even if they can’t defend the points themselves, they are satisfied that the church has provided an answer to criticisms.

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Near Death Experiences Studied By Neurophysiologist And Neuropsychiatrist

by Brokeback Watchtower in

this guy studied what happens with the human end of life phenomena and offers some interesting insights.

talks about alternate realities, and cultural effects on ones experience.

i think some might enjoy the way the whole matter is discussed.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78sktuk8zd4.

slimboyfat

I think there is a lot of wisdom in this video.

Existence and consciousness are mysterious, we don’t know the start of it. Sometimes we don’t notice things that are under our noses, and suffering can be avoided by giving up attachments.

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I.B.S.A.

by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

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anyone curious about our i.b.s.a.

cousins?.

https://vimeo.com/116005132.

slimboyfat

I am curious to know if there are any active BS left in Scotland or England af all?

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Congregation memorial stats

by nowwhat? in

2 congregations met together attendance 355 which is close to exact number of combined publishers.

only saw a couple of new faces.

so it looks like once again the invitation work was a complete failure and relatives of jw's couldn't be talked into coming anymore!.

slimboyfat

More than double publisher count: 45 publishers, 95 in attendance, which is fairly typical. The largest attendance I saw was 135 in the late 1990s.

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Would You Be Angry If You Were Maligned and Lied About Unfairly?

by minimus in

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people can’t understand why people like trump and cavanaugh literally get angry and upset over accusations that can ruin their lives.

if i was falsely accused by a mob of something, i would be defending myself vigorously!

i think it’s ridiculous when people criticize others for not just taking it.

slimboyfat

A narcissist like Trump gets angry when anyone says anything that conflicts with his self-image and agenda with absolutely no regard for whether the comment is true or not. In fact what is true is not even a consideration in his response because he doesn’t operate on a basis that truth or falsehood matters at all. All that matters to Trump is what works in any given moment, which is why he insists on opposite descriptions of reality on different occasions, depending on what he is attempting to achieve.

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I love it That JW`s Worship A God Named by The Catholics ,And Follow The Bible Of the protestants .

by smiddy3 in

the tetagrammaton 4 hebrew letters representing gods name in the hebrew scriptures as jhvh or more likely yhwh .. the name jehovah was unheard of before the 13th century simply because no one beforehand had added vowels to those four hebrew consonants representing gods name .. and then comes along a spanish catholic monk of the 13th century that adds vowels to those 4 hebrew consonants and he comes up with the name jehovah.. a name that the catholic church has used in and on churches since the 13th century throughout europe and elsewhere in the world.. and lo and behold the g.b.of jehovah`s witnesses in their wisdom stated in the first edition of the "aid to bible understanding" that they chose the name jehovah as the correct pronunciation of gods name because it was the most popular name in use in the world ?

logically by christendom `s religions ,who else ?.

then their is the bible cannon that all of the major christian religions have different books that they feel should make up the bible.. protestant religions .

slimboyfat

Only a small minority of JWs use the form of the divine name Jehovah, most use other forms. In the first century Jews used the divine name in the form Yaho. The important thing is to use Jehovah’s name. The strange thing is people who claim to follow the Bible yet seek to undermine the use of the divine name with excuses such as saying we don’t know the pronunciation or Jesus replaces Jehovah.

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Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

by Anders Andersen in

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many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

(i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

slimboyfat

Found it:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5074251394580480/uk-jw-charity-analysis-project

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5202406642024448/almost-half-uk-congregations-financially-red

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Help: project to gather statistics on JW congregation finances.

by Anders Andersen in

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friends

many countries demand that charities publish a yearly summary of their finances.. where i live (netherlands), charities must publish these statements themselves, and jw do this at jw-anbi.nl.

(i'm quite certain almost no jw knows about that site btw.).

anyway i've been working on automatically harvesting data from all the congregation finance statements to gain more insight in how the borg is doing over time.. now it occured to me that i could do this analysis for more countries and get an even bigger picture.

slimboyfat

This is a good idea. I seem to recall someone is already doing this for UK congregations, but I can’t find the thread right now.

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Was There An Occasion Where An Entire Congregation Broke Away?

by pale.emperor in

i remember reading somewhere (perhaps on here?

) than an entire congregation disassociated and started their own congregation after decided that the gb were apostate.. was this an urban myth or is there any evidence of this?.

slimboyfat

I have every Yearbook back to 1936. I will have a further look later. As you say, the earlier Yearbooks had a different, “snippet” format.

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The recent "Special " talk ,how many times was the name JEHOVAH mentioned VS the name JESUS

by smiddy3 in

the jehovah`s witnesses have long charged christendom`s religions falsely i might add of hiding the name of god jehovah /yahweh from their congregants ,by not using it or putting that name on the back burner so to speak ,and just using it minimally .. i`m just wondering if the jehovah`s witnesses /wtb&ts are actually guilty themselves of doing the very same thing with the name of jesus.. in the nwt of the bible 1984 edition i have in the section bible words indexed they have the name jehovah listed 80+ times ,.

however the name jesus is listed less than twenty times .. while i concede the bulk of the bible is contained by the o.t./hebrew scriptures and the n.t./christian greek scriptures are a smaller portion of the bible jehovah`s witness theology do place a lot more emphasis on jehovah than they do with jesus.. arent they guilty of trying to downplay the role of jesus christ in christianity ?

and exulting the name of jehovah which by the way goes against the christian teaching .phillipians 2:9-11.

slimboyfat

Why do you say “resort” to the meaning of Jesus’ name? Jesus’ name was highly significant for the early Christians. (See Matt 1:21)

Additionally, Jews in the first century used God’s name in the form Yaho. (See The Earliest Non-Mystical Jewish Use of IAW by Frank Shaw) So when the early Christians used the name Yaho-shua, they thought “Yaho Saves”. Jesus’ name did not replace God’s name, it pointed towards it.

The NT makes much more sense when we realise that the early Christian authors used God’s name and were fully aware of the meaning of Jesus’ name in relation to the divine name.

Consider how much more sense these verses make when we realise the first Christians used the divine name and appreciated the meaning of Jesus’ theophoric name.

Acts 3:19 Therefore, repent and turn so that your sins may be wiped away; so that happier times may come from Yaho himself, 20 and so that he may send you, in Yaho-saves, your long-appointed anointed one.

Acts 2:20 The sun will become darkness,
And the moon blood-red,
Before the day of Yaho comes – that great and awful day.
21 Then will everyone who invokes the name of Yaho be saved.”
22 People of Israel, listen to what I am saying. Yaho-saves of Nazareth, a man whose mission from God to you was proved by miracles, wonders, and signs, which God showed among you through him, as you know full well

Verses that make much more sense with the meaning of the divine name and Jesus’ name acknowledged in the text are too numerous to cite. The teaching of the NT is that Jesus bears Jehovah’s name because Jesus is the means by which Jehovah saves. Focus on Jesus’ name, or being witnesses to Jesus is not in competition with being witnesses of Jehovah. For the early Christians, to be a witness of Jesus was to be a witness to the fact that Jehovah saves by means of his anointed servant.