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slimboyfat
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
Somehow I think you apostates will never see sense.
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JW blackmailing
by greendawn incan you recall instances where your jw family or friends tried to blackmail you in one way or other to stay in the witchtower after you decided to leave it?
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slimboyfat
I certainly know many non-Witness relatives who used dubious tactics to try to get family members out of the movement.
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
Possibly, but that's the beauty of it.
From the position of someone who does not believe the claims of Jehovah's Witnesses, I cannot see how, subjectively, it is "beautiful" to push the organisation into a position of having to uphold a doctrine that means the objective deaths of many.
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
My response to you is: WHAT ABOUT THEIR INVOLVMENT WITH THE UNITED NATIONS AS AN NGO
That is a great example that proves my point!
The leaders of the organisation were becoming more mellow, cooperating with worldly agencies for the first time. They did not want to upset their membership, so they did this slowly and under the radar.
Then came along the screaming apostates with The Guardian in tow, and then the organisation went into retreat, back into their shells, more authoritarian, more hardline,cover ups and all this carry on. If only the apostates had allowed the organisation to mellow naturally they would have stated their new open stance to the world in time. But apostates had to come along, announce it to the world, and spoil all that!
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
They did not have to become rabid apostates and make the Witnesses feel constantly under attack.
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
Diamondblue - of course I am still in, working my way up... did you not hear I want to make it onto the governing body someday?
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
There were reforms in the organisation in the early seventies, and things were getting better. Then Jonnson came along with his 607/1914 research, apostasy broke out, Watters left and wrote his pamphlets, Ray Franz and other were forced out, and the organisation went into a siege mentality. The Witnesses might be very different today, had the apostates not declared war on them in the early eighties.
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Apostates - blood on their hands?
by slimboyfat indon't you think the witness leaders would have given up the blood doctrine and 1914 by now had not apostates made such big things of them?
haven't they been painted into a bit of a corner where, if they tried to adjust things on blood now, everyone would come down on them like a ton of bricks?
if apostates were not so vigilant in watching the witnesses' every move, perhaps the governing body would have tried to drop the dubious doctrines by the back door, like so many others that they have discarded when they did not feel to closely watched (organ transplants, for example).
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slimboyfat
The new book does mention 1914. It has a chapter and an appendix on the subject.
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Have you ever talked to a poster over the phone?
by ButtLight ini talked to one, and man, the voice just didnt match up to the person i chat with online!!!
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slimboyfat
Yes, but he does not know who I am, and I am beginning to wonder if I ever knew who he was.