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  name the bunny

  by fairchild in

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  yes, i am stuck in this game again.

  i can't go on until i find the name of this character.

  http://www.simplecodeworks.com/mazito-2/lobster/index.html

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  OldSoul

  I had to postpone it, the game started eating too much time...it is addictive.

  Thanks for the introduction to it, though! Can I ask for hints when I pick it back up again?

  OldSoul
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  New JW relationship

  by dougpotts in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  can someone explain fully the restrictions that a jw must accept when dating or trying to date a person not of the same faith - protestant.

  can she still date.

  is marriage permitted even though objected too by jw.

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  Congregation powers - in my church the congregation is supreme and can decide everything. Surely the congregation in JW faith has some powers over the running of the church.

  No. Sad to say, authority runs contrary to the Scriptures among Jehovah's Witnesses, entirely top down.

  Oldsoul says that only thru the organisation can god be spoken to by JW - Where in the bible do they get this assumption from.

  They don't get it from the Bible. They invented it. But if someone challenges it too carefully they will be excommunicated.

  Old Soul- you talk about emotional clubbing- what exactly do you mean.

  They play on emotions to achieve the desired results. In other words, they will offer underhanded comments that infer you aren't a good husband if you don't do things the way they say things should be done. It can make some people second-guess themselves. Even just raising the very idea is an abusive and twisted thing to do, in my opinion.

  The elders would fullfill spiritual guidence role. Surely the husband can say its none of their dam business. Thats a family matter.

  The husband can say whatever he wants. The wife attends 3 meetings a week without the husband and the elders DO NOT comply with direct instructions to leave the wife alone. I know that, firsthand.

  What effect does being made inactive have.

  One isn't made inactive, per se, one just becomes inactive. An inactive JW doesn't go from door-to-door and may or may not go to meetings. There is no rule saying that such a person is not to be associated with/talked to, but some JWs shun inactive JWs anyway—just to be on the safe side.

  How do JW look at Wordly people. Do they look down on them.Do they think they are superior in some way.Is it a slur.

  On the nose! First try, too. I am impressed. They look down on them, they consider themselves superior but they call it "more clean", and they use the term "worldly" as a derogatory slur. It can even be applied to Witnesses who are active but who some feel are not behaving appropriately or choosing wisely.

  Is translated simply a convertion created to enforce JW views.

  No, but it is largely to accomplish that purpose. Every questionable was stretched to its limits in English to reinforce JW dogma, and then the translated text (English term) is stretched as far as it will go as well.

  Does the watchtower mag take precedence over bible.

  Yes. In every case.

  How would elders know that holidays,xmas,birthdays ect are being recognised by family.

  Someone might see the wife buying decorations, or see evidence when visiting the home and ask question, or a child might brag about what they got for their birthday, etc. Any Witness who comes to know of it will feel duty-bound to report the infraction to the elders. It is obviously none of their business but that doesn't matter to them. They don't have control over celebration, they have control over disfellowshipping. Through fear of expulsion they exert emotional authority over all kinds of decisions.

  Who elect JW elders.

  Officially, the Governing Body. In reality, pretty much the Circuit Overseer and the local Body of Elders. The Governing Body usually does nothing mor than sign off on the appointment. And even then, I suspect it isn't the Governing Body itself that actually decides on each appointment.

  Again, I hope this is helpful.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Phinehas executed a man for getting married...

  by OldSoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it just dawned on me: the way an israelite got married was by taking a woman into his home/tent.

  when zimri did that with a midianitess, he was killed by phinehas for it.

  where was the standard set forth that they could not marry midianite women on pain of death?

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  I wonder what the Midianite women had that Israelite women didn't have?

  A willing spirit?
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  Did the calling of the Anointed REALLY end in 1935?

  by truthseeker in

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  2. friends

  posted from e-watchman.

  definitely food for thought.... .

  http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=176.

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  I think they are untying themselves from chronology as we speak, truthseeker. How many Witnesses have really understood the full implications of the foibles recorded in the Proclaimers book? How many could explain what the purpose for Beth-Sarim was? The significance of 1925, 1874, 1878?

  The 1914 year is the only one left. Few Witnesses can even explain what Daniel 4 is supposed to be prophesying without reading it to someone from a book, and I don't mean the Bible. Fewer still can begin to explain why Luke 21:24 should apply to Daniel chapter 4.

  Now there is no need for the anointing to stop, ever. The 144,000 becomes a figurative number but still a separate class from the deeply ingrained but completely baseless "other sheep" class. Thirty years later we read that the understanding that 144,000 was a literal number is due to shortsightedness and "a misunderstanding of the eventual outworking of Jehovah's grand purposes for the earth, soon to come. Aren't we grateful that Jehovah's organization is refined over time? In this way we can unitedly be brought closer to a full understanding of Jehovah's wonderful will and purposes."

  Blech!

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Who is Barbara Anderson?

  by Gill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you all seem to know who barbara anderson is, so i'm afraid i'm going to show my ignorance apart from that she is a lady who went to the bethel in brooklyn and writes some on the freeminds org.

  can anyone tell me more?

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  OldSoul

  She was featured on Dateline, in their special on child abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses. She was disfellowshipped just prior to its airing and her disfellowshipped statsu was communicated to every congregation in the US. It was a very haphazzard attempt to keep the R&F from seeing that program. It didn't work, for the most part.

  She is now suing the WTBTS for civil torts, and has a very compelling case.

  She is an experienced researcher and a very nice person to talk with.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  Phinehas executed a man for getting married...

  by OldSoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it just dawned on me: the way an israelite got married was by taking a woman into his home/tent.

  when zimri did that with a midianitess, he was killed by phinehas for it.

  where was the standard set forth that they could not marry midianite women on pain of death?

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  OldSoul

  The way an Israelite got married was by taking a woman to his tent/home. If he took her into Phinehas' tent I could understand how it played out, 'cause that just isn't cool, but it seems from the text like it was Zimri's tent. So why did Phinehas go bustin' in on a brotha' like that? Zimri was on his honeymoon!

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  A matter of pride (in your best Scottish accent)

  by IP_SEC in

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  2. beliefs

  when i left the jws one of the first things i was told was that i was too prideful not to listen and trust the fds anymore.

  were you told that?.

  this really is a logical fallacy called arumentum ad hominem, literally latin for argument to the man.

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  OldSoul

  Same results, very recently. I understand the frustration firsthand.

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  New JW relationship

  by dougpotts in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  can someone explain fully the restrictions that a jw must accept when dating or trying to date a person not of the same faith - protestant.

  can she still date.

  is marriage permitted even though objected too by jw.

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  OldSoul

  No problem, Doug. Glad to help.

  You can email me anytime with questions: watchtowerwhy at mchsi.com (this is to keep spiders from collecting my email address)

  Respectfully,
  OldSoul
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  kwintestal == birthday boy.

  by ackack in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm jealous.

  he's gonna get all the attention.

  way to go kwin!

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  Happy Birthday, Kwin!!!
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  Phinehas executed a man for getting married...

  by OldSoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it just dawned on me: the way an israelite got married was by taking a woman into his home/tent.

  when zimri did that with a midianitess, he was killed by phinehas for it.

  where was the standard set forth that they could not marry midianite women on pain of death?

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  OldSoul

  It just dawned on me: The way an Israelite got married was by taking a woman into his home/tent. When Zimri did that with a Midianitess, he was killed by Phinehas for it. Where was the standard set forth that they could not marry Midianite women on pain of death? Maybe it was there and I just missed it...

  OldSoul