Posts by AloneinOh

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come on guys, you can do better than this !

by deddaisy in

yawn, bore, blah.................come on guys, jw's are getting pretty dusty here, where's the zest on this board ?

tell your relatives, friends, etc: hey, you were part of the u.n., the watchtower bible & tract society owned a majority of stock in a jw company that had military contracts, the organization that you represent was false prophesying that the world was going to end in the 1800s through the 1900s, and when you can prove to me otherwise, than maybe i'll talk to you.

these guys are just going along with the program because they've gone along this far and they don't know what else to do with their lives because all of their acquaintances are part of this organization and their lives are almost up.............................to turn completely against this organization would be declaring defeat of their very lives.

AloneinOh

Unfortunately, I have to drive past the local kh (not my home kh) every day. It is only 1/4 mile from where I work. This sucks because I get a daily reminder of my jw past.

I was thinking about printing out the un scandal and then sneaking over to the kh on a thurs. night. I figure I could fly through the parking lot and slip a piece of paper under each windshield wiper. I could do the entire lot in about 2-3 minutes. Even if someone saw me and called the police I would be long gone before they got there. A minor trespassing charge wouldn't mean crap to me anyways even if I did get caught.

Another idea I have is to print everything and then run around town early in the morning to distribute them. I'll go to all of the newspaper machines, drop my quarter in and then slip a piece of paper into each one of the newspapers. Everyone that buys a paper also gets a little un info.

I am even willing to put up several hundred $$ to send each of the local publishers a copy of C.O.C. I just need to figure out how to get the most bang for my buck.

Hell hath no fury like that of a pissed off Apostate!

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come on guys, you can do better than this !

by deddaisy in

yawn, bore, blah.................come on guys, jw's are getting pretty dusty here, where's the zest on this board ?

tell your relatives, friends, etc: hey, you were part of the u.n., the watchtower bible & tract society owned a majority of stock in a jw company that had military contracts, the organization that you represent was false prophesying that the world was going to end in the 1800s through the 1900s, and when you can prove to me otherwise, than maybe i'll talk to you.

these guys are just going along with the program because they've gone along this far and they don't know what else to do with their lives because all of their acquaintances are part of this organization and their lives are almost up.............................to turn completely against this organization would be declaring defeat of their very lives.

AloneinOh

I am one of those who has been tiptoeing for the last 20+yrs. I have to admit though that when I left, I turned my back totally on religion and wouldn't even glance at a news article about any church or religion. I just recently learned the truth about the truth.

Everyone where I work knows that I am an exjw. I even used to tell them that I believed it was the truth, but I just didn't want to live that way. WELL, for the past couple of weeks I have been informing everyone about what I now know. In the past I never talked about their beliefs, just the fact that I thought it was the truth. Now, I am spilling it all. The majority of my friends are outraged at what I have told them so far. One lady that works for me cried and hugged me and cried some more when I told her about my 20 years of shunning by my entire family. They all had no idea of what really went on with jws.

Isn't it one of the commandments that I spread "the good news" and the truth about jehovahs organization here on earth? I'm doing just what they ask. How many hours do I need to qualify as an Apostate pioneer? Can I count the time spent burning wbts literature?

Right now I am in the process of writing a letter to my parents. Basically it will be announcing the fact that I will no longer let the jw beliefs continue to haunt me or have any influence in any of my thoughts or actions ever again. I know that I will be branded an apostate, but thats ok....our relationship has been non-existant for 20 years so I don't need to worry about losing a family that I don't have anyways. Since I am becoming vocal in my opposition to jws I would rather have my parents hear from me that "YES, I am an Apostate and proud of it!" than hear it from someone else. (ever notice how I capitalize Apostate but not jehovah? lol)

There is also someone on this board that I recently learned I have a common bond with......one of those relative by marriage things. Once I get this letter to my parents I will be able to introduce myself to this person. My sister is gonna' crap her drawers when this person tells her I said hi. I would love to see it.

It's kind of strange, but I am actually kind of looking forward to being given the label of Apostate. It will be a HUGE burden off of my back.

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I love Ebay.....I saved and made $$$$

by HappyDad in

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anyone have experience selling on ebay?.

i recently started learning about it and bought a brand new total gym (the infomercial by chuck norris and christy brinkley).

it sells for $1,495.00 if you call the infomercial number.

AloneinOh

Oh yeah! Ebay is great. You need to be careful though....don't get caught up in the excitement of the auction and pay more for something than it's worth. I have been on it for about 4 or 5 years now and see it happen all the time. I see far too many people get excited and pay more for something than you could buy it new for. I have also gotten some outstanding deals.

You can sell ANYTHING on ebay. There is always someone out there waiting to buy what you have.....no matter what it is. Type in keywords like smelly, nasty, booger, poop, etc..... you'll be surprised at what people are bidding on.

If you plan on selling more than a couple items, get a PayPal account. Personally, I won't even bid on something that I can't pay for with Paypal. It has to be rare or I need it desperately before I will fool with a money-order. I know many other people that are the same way.

If you are selling smaller items, get a kitchen scale from wally-world. You can find shipping costs online. I think USPS priority for under 5lbs is 3.95 anywhere in the 48. Include the charges in the auction ad. Some sellers do not put anything in their ads and then when it's over they will tack on an outrageous amount for "handling charges." These are ok, just don't over-do it.

If you have a quantity of an identical product, don't sell them one right after the other. You'll flood the market and after the first one or two you won't get squat from the rest. I bought some high dollar tools from a guy that made the mistake of putting in his ad that he had a whole bunch of these from a factory that closed. After the first few sold for nearly 75% of original price I got mine for 5% of original. I bought 3 of them before the guy caught on.

Have fun!

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What do ya do on a boring weekend???

by missy04 in

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lol it kinda sucks.

i had my first week at my new job (so a little stressed) and my big sis and i had planned on spending the weekend together.

then she decided it wasn't a good weekend when i was all ready.. anyway, what are good ways to have fun when you're bored and have nothing to do all weekend and no one to go anywhere with?

AloneinOh

I'm the opposite. I WISH I had time for a boring weekend. I try to limit myself to only 40 hrs per week at my job, but I am always busy doing something and getting busier all the time. Didn't even have time to have fun this past summer. I put a whopping 38 miles on the motorcycle and 14 on the 4-wheeler. What's really sad is that I didn't even get a fishin' license in 2004.

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What kind of music do you listen to?

by Dustin in

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i like to listen to alot of music.

i am mostly a hard rocker, godsmack, soil, marilyn manson.

i also like alot of rap, snoop, g-unit, kanye west, xzibit.

AloneinOh

Jethro tull, Rush, Ronnie James Dio, VanHalen (David Lee only, no Sammy), Ozzy, Zepplin, Sabbath, Rainbow, Ian Hunter, Steely Dan, Genesis, Queen

a few that I don't normally admit.....Psychadelic Furs,The Hooters, D'vinyls, Pat Benatar, Marty Robbins (Gunfighter love songs and ballads)

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I just realized that some of you would know my parents in Dallas.

by AloneinOh in

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my family moved there about 20 years ago.

i don't know how many congregations there are, but judging from where they live i am assuming they go to the kh that is south of dallas off of 35e.

i have never been there, and have only seen them a couple times in the last 20 years.. my dad is an elder...(99% sure), so i imagine anyone from that cong would have to know them.

AloneinOh

My family moved there about 20 years ago. I don't know how many congregations there are, but judging from where they live I am assuming they go to the KH that is south of Dallas off of 35E. I have never been there, and have only seen them a couple times in the last 20 years.

My dad is an elder...(99% sure), so I imagine anyone from that cong would have to know them.

Who wants to tell me about them?.....good/bad elder, nice jws, jerks,....attittude, etc..? What about the rest of the cong? Decent group or not?

thanks!

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Does dying scare you?

by JH in

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as jw dubs, we were sure we would live forever.

when we left the organization, probably we all started to accept that paradise wouldn't be around the corner, and that we would probably die like everyone else around us.. how do you deal with the fact that you will one day die?

AloneinOh

Nope.....that's something that never really bothered me. I don't want to die, buy when I go...I go.

I had a bad industrial accident 4 years ago. I got into a big arguement with the doctors over blood transfusions. I made them bring me the papers to sign refusing blood transfusions. They told me I may not come out of surgery. I have refused blood twice in my life. Kinda makes me mad now to think that JWs put this into my head. That won't happen again!

The thought of dying doesn't bother me....I just don't want it to be a slow painful death. If I don't die in my sleep then I hope it is something spectacular. Something like, " Local resident dies in fiery explosion after having heart attack and driving into a gas well."

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How rebellious did you get after leaving?

by JH in

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after leaving a controlling sect, it?s normal to want to live ?freedom?.

what did you do to show that you were no longer under the influence of the watchtower?

did you grow a beard, start having sex with whoever, start drinking, start gambling?

AloneinOh

Serious partying!

Hairy buffalo parties, gallons of Bacardi and JD, smoke weed, acid, shrooms, strip clubs, rock concerts, smoke cigs,....you name it. There wasn't a whole heck of a lot that I didn't try once. Good thing I grew up....probably be dead if I hadn't.

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Thanks for such a warm welcome

by AloneinOh in

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wow!

it's really encouraging to find such warm hearted people so willing to welcome a new guy.. all of your kind words have made a difference already.

i have been reading hundreds of posts and i never imagined that there were so many others out there going through or have gone through the same thing.. i think you all are right about talking to my parents.

AloneinOh

Wow! It's really encouraging to find such warm hearted people so willing to welcome a new guy.

All of your kind words have made a difference already. I have been reading hundreds of posts and I never imagined that there were so many others out there going through or have gone through the same thing.

I think you all are right about talking to my parents. They live 1000 miles away so we only speak about once a year when they come back to see other relatives. This will give me plenty of time to get my head together as well as all of the facts. My dad is fairly intelligent so if things are handled just right, he'll be compelled to find out on his own. I would really like to send them a copy of one of them old watchtower Christmas cards.....along with everyone else I know.

Hmmm.....I think I'm starting to feel a little of that anger you are talking about. Maybe I'll get out the playstation and put in Grand Theft Auto. I can walk around beating up on people and pretend they are the GB!

I dug out my old books today. Everything from back in the 70s. I even still have my Listening to the Great Teacher book...you know....the cute little pink one.(gag) Can't find my Paradise book....I know it's around here somewhere.

oh yeah...Im midway between Columbus and Cleveland.

Thanks again for all of the support.....if ya' don't mind, I'd kinda like to stick around a while.

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Depressed and about to lose it

by AloneinOh in

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once i left i became about as "worldly" as a person could get.

world that once i left i went totally out of control.

when i left, .

AloneinOh

First, let me say hello to everyone and thanks for such a great place.
I too am an ex-JW. I have been out for 20 years now and even though I thought I was rid of them, certain things

have still been uncomfortable.

I guess a little background is in order. I was born and raised a JW. My grandmother (dads side) was born and

raised a JW. My great grandmother was one of the annointed. Everyone except for one aunt are JWs. Cousins,

grandparents, nieces, etc.... My uncle has been at Bethel now for about 40 yrs. Ever since he was 20. (never

married and never had a date in his life) When I was a kid, I remember my dad going to what was then known

as Kingdom Ministry School. I think this was in 72 or 73. My mom was a pioneer. Eventually my dad became

an elder and was one until I was dis-associated in the early 80s. They blamed him for my leaving and removed

him as an elder. He eventually became an elder again and still is. Every Tues,Thurs, and Sunday, there we

were....never missed a meeting. Every Sunday out in service after the meeting and 98% of the saturdays I was

going door to door. When mom pioneered, there I was....right beside her.

It was all around me...."The Truth, The Truth, The Truth,"....everywhere I turned. That's all I knew.

Once I left I became about as "worldly" as a person could get. I had been so sheltered and kept away from the

world that once I left I went totally out of control. I wanted to do it all....party,party,party.

But, even through all of this, I still knew that it was the "Truth." I even told this to many people....I knew it was

the truth...I just didn't want to live that way. I was weak, I just accepted the fact that Satan had gotten ahold

me with all of these "worldly" temptations. I enjoyed all of these things and knew that my fate was sealed. This is

how it had been for 20 years, until now. I have even told my wife that I felt it was the trurh. She doesn't know

anything about JWs, but said she would support me and stand beside me if I wanted to go back. She is the most

wonderful person in the world and it would be impossible to live without her. There was no way that I could tell her

what JWs believed or show her any of the books. If I had shown her what the truth was and then never did anything

to get back to the congregation I would have sealed her fate at Armageddon. I guess I figured if she was kept

away from learning the truth there was the possibilty she would be spared.

This leads us to 2004.
I don't know how this happened, I wasn't looking for it, but one night while surfing the net I came across an article

that caught my attention. It was something about the JWs selling some land for something like 25 million. Ok...so

I read it. It wasn't a big deal.....they sold some land that they had bought from Bob Hope in 74' .

Well, it didn't hit me until a couple days later.
I sat up in bed and my jaw hit the floor. Did I read what I think I read? Back on the net I went to find that article.

Yep, sure enough, the same guys that were telling me the world was going to end in 75 were investing in real

estate for the future.

Now, I'm thinkin something smells rotten here.
The more I looked the more I found. Unbelievable!
I never kept up on anything once I left...I tried not to look back. I didn't know about the UN scandal. When I left,

the UN was still the scarlet colored beast. I didn't know about any of this stuff. I steered clear of anything to do

with religion.

Now I am totally devistated. I have cried more in the past month than the rest of my life combined. I really thought

it was the truth..I really did. Why...why why why was I so stupid and blind. How could I have let myself be

brainwashed like that. The hurt is incredible....more deep down pain than I thought was possible.

I have never truly had the Christmas spirit. Deep down I didn't think it was right. I could put on a front, but the spirit

was never there. I have never had or wanted a birthday party....never seemed right. Now I think I know why.

Dang it! I WANT the Christmas spirit.....I want that kind of joy in my heart...it's just not fair. All of my life I have had

very low self esteem. I never thought much of myself. Many times I have considered some very stupid things. I

always felt like somewhat of a failure. One of the reasons I never wanted kids of my own was because I didn't want

to make them suffer through Armageddon because of me being such a bad person. Even though I left a long time

ago I am still paying the price.

So, now I am trying to deal with an internal struggle that I never imagined I would.

There are so many things going through my mind that I don't know which way is up.

Mom and dad are a constant thought now too. They spent their entire lives devoted to

this....this IS their life. It didn't matter to me that I was a lost cause......they

were gonna live forever. And now they're not...that hurts......bad. I'm gonna have

to tell them what I know. How could I live with myself if I don't. That will be the

hardest day of my life. I'll probably be branded an Apostate, but I don't care. I

will probably ruin what little relationship we have. Even if they did listen and

found out what's going on, then what.... I have just ruined their one and only

dream. Life really sucks sometimes.

I guess the one thing I do know now is that I'm NOT being influenced by the devil.

I'M NOT! I'm not an evil person! I want my life back and from this point on I AM

taking it back.

I'm really sorry to act like blubbering idiot but I didn't know who to talk to

that could understand...... Now, as soon as I can compose my self long enough, I

need to talk to my wife about this. It's time for her to know whats happened. It's

really been tough trying to control my emotions when we are together. Until now I

thought I was helping her by not telling her anything.

Thanks for listening