hi blondie!.
thirteen years ago you commented on an idea circulating among some jws prior to 1975, that there was a possibility that armageddon survivors might not be able to marry.. "these vows that honor god are used—not from the bible but the only ones sanctioned by the wts.. for as long as we both shall live together on earth according to god's marital arrangement.. when i was in my 20’s, many jws interpreted this to mean that at some point in the 'new system' marriage would end.
since this was shortly before 1975, many jws rushed to get married worried that they would never have the chance (and never have the chance to have sex.
Expanded Mind....
Sorry I misread your question. We always had the hope of marriage after Armageddon, after all ,we expected to survive in those days. The possible “termination of the marriage arrangement “ was seen as a very future thing- like at the end of the 1000 years. At that time Earth would be comfortably full.
Looking back , what naive fools we were !
hi blondie!.
thirteen years ago you commented on an idea circulating among some jws prior to 1975, that there was a possibility that armageddon survivors might not be able to marry.. "these vows that honor god are used—not from the bible but the only ones sanctioned by the wts.. for as long as we both shall live together on earth according to god's marital arrangement.. when i was in my 20’s, many jws interpreted this to mean that at some point in the 'new system' marriage would end.
since this was shortly before 1975, many jws rushed to get married worried that they would never have the chance (and never have the chance to have sex.
Wt 14.. 8/15
”Is there sound reason for hoping that resurrected ones will be able to marry? Put simply, the answer is that we cannot say.”
Nowadays they lean toward saying ‘yes’ , without committing themselves. I think a lot of widowed dubs cherish the hope.
i am not talking about the usual crap from the cult writings, but rather things idiots believed on their own.
maybe even helped on by the cult but not directly taught.
i knew an old man now long gone kunde in michigan.
Ok , I thought twice before posting this , but I swear this is true. Back in the day a sister I knew said that the best health treatment was a drink that is perfectly free and we all see it several times a day, she practiced urophagia.
That was drinking your own urine . She called it the "water of life"
I would NOT recommend it !
i am not talking about the usual crap from the cult writings, but rather things idiots believed on their own.
maybe even helped on by the cult but not directly taught.
i knew an old man now long gone kunde in michigan.
NB ... Chiropractic treatment has done me the power of good , so it is not "wacky" in itself,
Witnesses are certainly open to strange ideas and non mainstream things. I put it down to being taught to not trust doctors ,over the blood issue. Also since Commerce and Politics are "in the power of the wicked one" , why believe what they say?
all or nothing said this in a previous thread, "we were told the "identifying mark of true christians is this love among the brothers".
it was said in the thread about not being invited to things.. i have seen it many times in re: to jw's.
how do jw's handle luke 6:32 then?
A real Dub answer would be something like: ...
"Don't you know that the discipline of the disfellowshipping arrangement is an expression of love to the sinner? Tough love maybe , but love nonetheless . It hurts the shunner to have to ignore his former friend or family member. We do it to get them back among us, repentant and in a good relationship with Jehovah"
..........
There you are , isn't that what they would say?
this guy was not a born in and did not really work his way up from the very bottom.
he kind of got some kind of fast track.
its a bit strange.
Snare and Racket said :
"He's an aggressive Type A personality ....in a cult.... he was always going to be head of something."
That is true. The WTS is no different to other organizations.
I have served with 'Type A ' elders . First they have to be committed, of course, but their abilities mean that they are forgiven for not being kind and approachable. If AM3 was prepared to pioneer as a young man , you can see that he would have a glittering "Theocratic career" ahead of him.
it was announced today that we will have a special weekend meeting next month.
it will be 3 hours long and will include some streamed content.. no explanation was given as to what the meeting will be about, only that it will be exciting and we will not want to miss it..
if it is 3 hours worth, it sounds most like a Branch Visit to your governing Branch Office. The concluding part of that is a meeting for the Bethel family which is streamed to the congs.
They are a bit of a marathon for even the keenest and fittest
so a few things .... apparently it's superbowl 54, and also the centennial of the sport.
erm ... i'm not a mathematician, but aren't there 46 superbowls missing?.
americans claim that uk sport ("soccer", aka real football) is too low scoring.
it's a culture thing. Guys like me , and Simon, brought up to love marching to a cold, dilapidated Football Stadium to watch 22 men playing real football,with a round ball and without using hands.......We will never get it, and at my time of life I am not going to try.
The beautiful game reigns supreme all around the world. England's league is in great shape. My team are doing well. Let's leave the Yanks to their commercialised incomprehensible game...they are welcome to it
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.
a teenage girl who urgently requires surgery can, if necessary, be administered blood or blood products against the wishes of herself and her parents, all members of the jehovah’s witness faith, the president of the high court has ordered.. mr justice peter kelly said he was satisfied, notwithstanding the views of the girl and her parents, the orders are necessary for preserving the girl’s life and not to permit them would be “hazardous”.. the orders take immediate effect, he directed.. david leahy bl, for the hse, sought the orders in an ex parte application, one side only represented, on friday afternoon.. a solicitor for the hse told the court he had informed the girl and her parents of the court application and the parents had indicated they were not attending court to oppose it.. the solicitor said the parents were not objecting to surgery but, should a situation arise where the medical team wanted to administer blood or blood products, they could not agree to that and wanted the team to explore all other alternatives.. they had also said they wanted the best for their daughter and would not stand in the way of a court order.. mr justice kelly said court applications for leave to administer blood or blood products against the wishes of members of the jehovah’s witness faith, while not a regular occurrence, are not unusual.. he referred to a number of decisions permitting that to be done in “exceptional” circumstances.. on the medical evidence, including that antibiotic therapy had not reduced the infection and the serous risk of sepsis if surgery is not carried out, he was satisfied she needed the surgery.. read more: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/judge-orders-blood-can-be-administered-to-jehovah-s-witness-girl-1.4157892.
I can see a problem for a ,say 17 yr old being forced medication against their will . Nobody wants to live in a state where the doctor can thrust it on you , whatever you say. Of course it is different for a younger child. How old is this girl ? We do not know.
It does seem to be a paper exercise. . The parents have to say No., The doc gets a court order.... ok then.
Times change. I can remember stories as a boy , when children were smuggled out of hospital - transported to another facility where the surgeon was more sympathetic. ..... Of course in the cases we heard about the child recovered ok
Best wishes for this girl
just in case you needed these.. 2019-11-08-kingdom hall trust.
https://docdro.id/gvdxn0c.
petra!.
Thanks Atlantis and Petra... No doubt their legal team checked it out but it seems outrageous that a KHall that was built, paid for, with often the savings of local dubs, for their use could be given away , just like that
We are seeing the results with halls being sold and dubs having to travel a distance to meet. The sheep just bleat that " it is Jehovah's will"
