people are not willing to accept the popularity of the watchtower and awake as these magazines belong to jw.
a listing site has declared the watchtower the most popular magazine in the world.. source: https://tingtopten.com/2020/01/top-10-most-popular-magazines-in-the-world/.
in comment section of this link people are abusing again jehovah's witnesses.
I am not going to abuse JWs but from an ex inside view I can explain the following
They may print 50 million but how many are read? It is given away free, on the street, on the doorstep, sometimes left in letterboxes . A vast number are thrown away unread as "junk mail" A lot more pile up undistributed in JWs homes and end up on the tip.
There are about 8million active Witnesses . I would guess maybe 10 mill. Max is a true readership.
we all know that things are all going to be way different when we get through this milestone.. like hurricane katrina, people survived this but new orleans even 16 years later is way different.
our economy is like a shark that must keep moving through the water.
stop it and it will die.. the witnesses like many people in the world, have little to no savings.
Like you, I have no sympathy for Witnesses who live on the edge and have not prepared financially for their future"
I was one of those too. However, more by luck than judgement I have now a company pension that boosts my State one. I know many good people though who struggle because they trusted the predictions of the WTS and did not prepare . Their only crime was to make a mistake , trust the wrong advisor....
Zoom could be their saviour at this time.. Steven Lett applied a scripture about "sucking the milk of nations" to the use of modern technology by the WTS. Yesterday I saw some of the first local WT Study . The attitude seemed to be one of hunkering down and a "wartime spirit". The study took time and some had problems using the system but they all seemed to be enjoying the experience.
Sorry, but I suspect they will emerge from this stronger, having survived the "pestilence"
i certainly have , over the normal week i go to one of two clubs where i have two beers over a couple of hours ( i pace myself ) and catch up with a few friends .
one of the clubs every hour goes around to disinfect everywhere people make contact with pokies /machines or whatever we might touch.and they also now have limits as to how many can be in a certain area at any one time.and that applies to both clubs ,except one does not disinfect every hour.. today, their were far fewer people in this particular club that i attended that is usually bustling with patrons on a saturday either drinking gambling and socializing .not today.
and a strict rule of how many could be in a certain area at any one time .. and i agree with all of this , its necessary .and i will be monitoring my own activities as need be.. what have you noticed in your neck of the woods.?
In U K.... the streets are less crowded , the supermarkets are busy, but have a lot of gaps on the shelves.
From today, of course, all cafes, pubs , clubs sports gyms are closed , so there is nowhere much to be going..
over at jw talk they're saying because they're having to hold the upcoming memorial at home, they dont need to actually have the emblems.
apparently, listening to or watching the talk is the thing that counts.. "do this in rememberence of me" apparently means watching tony morris on your phone give a talk.. this begs the question... "what's the point?
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We were discussing this at home this morning.... we reckoned that if you viewed yourself as anointed you would have to sit at home in front of the laptop , having bought a packet of plain matzohs and a bottle of red wine , and partake at the appropriate time..
The rest of them don’t need it .....I think....
have you seen this on jworg?.
https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/global/coronavirus-report/.
2 minutes in everyone's favourite clow, stephen lett, tells us all that this coronavirus means we're in the last days of the last days.. cool.
What a Guy!......even when he tries to put an important point across, he sounds totally insincere, even comical. I can’t blame those who lampoon him.
About the talk... At least they are obeying the authorities’ recommendations I will give them that. But all that baloney about loving care by elders?
My wife has heard nothing . If it were not for me getting on here and snippets on the grapevine from a friend, she would know nothing. Elders,? Shepherds? You must be joking....
so i just heard from a very reliable source that meetings, at least in some locations are now being video fed to the sheeple.
and guess what?
one can even comment and be seen by other members of the conference, for more encouragement.. i did see though that the service providing this video tie-in has as part of their tos this: you will receive a notification (visual or otherwise) when recording is enabled.
In U K video streaming of meetings is becoming the norm . When my wife’s cong started I tried it for curiosity. It asked the number viewing , so they could take a count and also my name. I put A N Other and it let me in.
Sis Blues went in last Sunday and got an American meeting streamed , due to Coronavirus and local meetings cancelled.
i went to my local walmart today and most of the can goods and frozen foods were sold out.
i did a web search from where i buy ammo from, lucky gunner, sg ammo, buds and others.
bulk ammo is sold out just over night.
I am glad we do not have a gun issue around here...
As for toilet roll shortage .... when I was a kid we used the " News Of The World" in an emergency ! ( a Sunday Newspaper ) Ouch....
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
Yes the U K is also moving towards lockdown with the over 70's told to stay indoors for months, large events cancelled and people advised against going to pubs , eating out etc.
I don't know what it is like on the street, I am confined indoors as an "at risk person" ( so they say)
Wifey has gone to try and beat the crowds at the supermarket, so as to keep a "social distnce" from people...
I see from the excellent link that Simon put up (top of this thread) that Britain is in the top 10 for reported cases, but how many are unknown since they dont test everyone?
Oh well, hunker down and keep smiling .... hope all my JW Discussion friends are ok...
i am no longer one of jehovah's witnesses, but i can remember the excellent talks given by the above frank sartin, an elder and i think at one time a zone overseer in the lancashire area of the uk.
upon doing some research i read that he died back in 2015. .
does anyone else remember him?.
"It was about obedience not faith."
That is dead right Giordano. .Even more so so today the whole thing is about obedience to the central leadership. Faith? Yes but faith to follow not to think or reason.
My history is nowhere near as accomplished as your own but when I resigned the B of E , the others did not want to know be , although I was for a while a normal cong member.
Anyway, must not hijack SBlackwell's thread,
NB... No, I never Knew a Bro Sartin... there were some pretty good speakers around in the old days. Sadly all the individuality seems to have been knocked out of them these days
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I heard of a local cong , UK, having group meets...... That seems daft to me. I feel more vulnerable with a crowd in a small room. We would not be going.
