Posts by BluesBrother

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Why Jehovah`s Witnesses are wrong emphasising the name Jehovah.

by smiddy3 in

hi friends, feel free to correct me where i`m wrong with this post.after all it`s just my observation of jw`s and the bible.. in the beginning of gods dealings with adam it was on a personal level , god to man so to speak.. god then dealt with humans via the patriarchs , then with the levi priesthood ,then judges ,( and a woman was a judge ) then kings ,somewhere in between all of this prophets played a major part ,and then came jesus christ the messiah.. and to my knowledge god has not validated a successor to him with any evidence i`ve seen .. jehovah`s witnesses claim to be christians but have with no new testament backing usurped jesus with jehovah.. this period of time ,until god says otherwise ,christians are to give honour and glory to none other than jesus christ .. that is the name that is above any other name until god says otherwise.

phil.2:9-11. not the name jehovah .the bible never says anything about a kingdom of jehovah ,the coming kingdom is the kingdom of jesus christ with his associate 144,000 earthly subjects.. this is just my understanding of what the bible actually says .. whether i believe it or not is another matter..

BluesBrother

Often thought along these lines... Actually, in the past I think they did honour Jesus more, certainly the old anointed bros of my childhood would speak of "The Lord" in warm terms . It was not Jehovah they meant but Jesus with whom they felt a special bond.

It was JFR who coined the organization's name in the mid '30s as the Great Crowd were identified in their beliefs.

As others have said, the Bible says, All the Judging is delegated to the Son( John ch 5) and it is he who seperates the sheep from the goats (Matt 25) . Furthermore "In the name of Jesus every knee should bend (Php. 2)

At one time we they used to use the expression 'Jehovah's Christian Witnesses ' .That was a bit better.

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2021- Circuit Assembly

by bats in the belfry in

is it just me, or do they really have increased the number of speakers of color?.

gearing up for more increase in africa perhaps?

(hint: jw box).

BluesBrother

I have never seen anything that made me think think they favoured white speakers. Ask Sam Herd

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1914 Dropped

by pale.emperor in

so i was observing an online conversation between a jw and a former-jw.

the non-jw pointed out that wwi cant have had anything to do with satan supposedly being "cast out of heaven" because wwi was already well under way in oct 1914.. the jw proceeds to explain that satan was actually thrown down to the earth in 1915 and that he started to wreak havock on the earth from heaven knowing he was about to be cast out.. so 1914 is officially old light now?

does anyone have a source for that or was this brother lying through his teeth?.

BluesBrother

"Eventually it will be the date Jesus took control of things and less about it being a time line."

....

That is exactly what it is . They say in1914 the Kingom was born, and the "Time of the end began" . Christ began his "presence ". The expulsion of Satan was an after event

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Do Jehovah’s Witnesses “Witness” Any More?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i see no more preaching.

no more door knocking.

no more car groups.

BluesBrother

Right now it is just dormant, around here at least... Will it immediately go back when they can? ....who knows

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The Spiritual Food Box!

by Atlantis in

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friends

the spiritual food box.. .

https://www.jw.org/en/library/series/how-your-donations-are-used/a-small-box-that-delivers-spiritual-food/.

petra!.

BluesBrother

Weeell..... I used to live in a land that had no internet....... Britain in the 1960s . All our “spiritual food “ came on the printed page.....and you know what?

Life in the Borg was far better!

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Thinking about Flipper

by HappyDad in

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friends

with all the fires raging in california and oregon, i have been thinking about flipper and hoping he is ok. .

flipper..........if you read this, know that we are sending love your way.

we will most likely worry about you until we hear from you..

BluesBrother

Sending best wishes to Flipper, please those that can contact him, hoping he and all his people are safe from the fires.

Re. His thoughts on this board please tell him that the rest of us old timers feel the same way and mourn the old days, but we have to keep going...finding the good bits and ignoring the bad bits

As he would say “Peace Out”....

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WT on being convinced you have the truth

by road to nowhere in

par.

" what may happen if our faith is based only on the christian love shown by our brothers and sisters?

" different than my experiences.

BluesBrother

[Quote]

"You too must logically reason on what you have learned about Jehovah from reading the Bible."

Absolutely true . Logical reasoning ignores family pressures or a wanting to believe. It considers all angles , reviews the counter arguments, reads all relevant material both for and against. Would such an examination lead you to this conclusion?

[Quote]

"And third, you need to confirm that Jehovah has an organized group of people who are worshipping him under Christ’s headship and that Jehovah’s Witnesses are that group. "

I submit that if their reasoning was really logical, few would agree with that.

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The Re-Opening of the Kingdom Halls

by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

it's been six months since the kingdom halls have been closed.

i believe here in ontario, canada that you are now allowed to have up to 50 people congregate together.. that was the average attendance before they did all the merging of the congregations.

they should have went back to the original pre-merger congregations.

BluesBrother

Forgive me for not finding the actual quote, but tbey said in a letter to the U k elders , a little while back, that the K .Halls would stay closed for as long as it takes...... no matter if the authorities said o k to open.

with the covid numbers rising again, I don't see them opening any time soon.

Yippee!

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Final talk of the 2020 'Always Rejoice' Convention

by Listener in

this is part of splane's lecture in the final part of the final day of the 2020 convention.

now speaking of broadcasting.

do you think jehovah has been preparing us for something like this pandemic?

BluesBrother

Thanks for reminding me Smiddy... that major change in beleifs passed me by...

Quote Wt March 2016

....

"When were God’s people held captive by Babylon the Great?

For a number of years, we explained that this captivity began in 1918 and involved a brief period of time when God’s people came under the control of Babylon the Great. ............."

[New light]

"That captivity began sometime in the second century C.E. and continued until the cleansing of the spiritual temple in the time of the end."

............

That is hardly a "minor detail"! When I think of the weeks if not months we spent on a Tuesday night hammering that point in the old Babylon book, as a kid. It was the major thing of the day ..What a waste of time!

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How Often is 1914 Openly Spoken of at the Meetings?

by Number 6 in

as someone who left in 1991 aged 21, one of my overriding memories of growing up in the watchtower was being able to "prove" the end times by referencing 1914.. major change in 95 then again after that.

if i'm being honest i could not even tell you now what the current teaching is.. for those who still attend the meetings, is it still openly spoken about?

i genuinely curious as i wonder if the teaching will be altogher dropped eventually, and one of the easiest ways to achieve that is to stop speaking about it.

BluesBrother

It may not appear often in print ( if that is the right word in the digital age) but it is very much still part of the beliefs and culture.

The whole point of JWism is the "last days". That began when Jesus took up his kingdom in heaven. And that was 1914. Nowadays I hear more of the "visible signs of the times", like Covid, than a mathematical calculation but the 1914 date is very much alive in the WT mind.