John 13 makes it clear that Judas left before the covenant was enacted. The others may not include that detail but that does not make them disagreeing . As far as I know John was there , at Jesus’ right hand , so he ought to know.
BluesBrother
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was Judas there?
by enoughisenough infrom luke 22:14 .
so when the hour came, he reclined at the table along with the apostles.+ 15 and he said to them: “i have greatly desired to eat this passover with you before i suffer; 16 for i tell you, i will not eat it again until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of god.” 17 and accepting a cup, he gave thanks and said: “take this and pass it from one to the other among yourselves, 18 for i tell you, from now on, i will not drink again from the product of the vine until the kingdom of god comes.”+.
19 also, he took a loaf,+ gave thanks, broke it, and gave it to them, saying: “this means my body,+ which is to be given in your behalf.+ keep doing this in remembrance of me.”+ 20 also, he did the same with the cup after they had the evening meal, saying: “this cup means the new covenant+ by virtue of my blood,+ which is to be poured out in your behalf.+.
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No funeral
by road to nowhere ini have run across another jw death where the final wishes are for no service.
3rd or 4th instance.
another wanted a celebration of life which the elders squelched as far as i know.
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BluesBrother
I have known a couple of instances in recent times where there was no funeral as such. The family just handed the body to the undertaker to cremate alone. They still had a K/hall memorial meeting though, a little later.
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The MODERN DAY tourist guide shooting themselves in the foot.
by Longlivetherenegades inthe tourist guide as obtained from the kingdom rule book chapter 5 paragraphs 1-6. the book states..... the spirit of the truth .
will guide you into all the truth.”.
the spirit is jesus’ means of teaching his followers whatever they need to know about god’s kingdom—right when they need to know it.. me: who are your tourist guide today?.
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BluesBrother
So how does the believer know whether the teaching is really revealed by H/s or whether it is just the GB getting ahead of things?
it seems that they themselves don’t know when the Spirit is on them or it isn’t, I guess it all seems right at the time and only later proved wrong.
The safest thing is to assume it never is on them. And that is the conclusion that most of us have come to.
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Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?
by smiddy3 inhas this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?
and what`s the significance, if any ?.
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BluesBrother
Someone called it “barbaric “ …really?
The Mayo Clinic site says this…
” Circumcision might have various health benefits, including:
- Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. However, boys with uncircumcised penises can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin.
- Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later.
- Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men might have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.
- Prevention of penile problems. Occasionally, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis.
- Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although cancer of the penis is rare, it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men.”
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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?
by slimboyfat inhave you seen this video about the covid vaccines?
have you got any views on the information?
i find it worrying at least.
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BluesBrother
Well , I am still going for another booster this week.
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Washington State-Spokesman-Review article: The Silent Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/oct/02/the-silent-witnesses-jehovahs-witnesses-covered-up/.
the silent witnesses: jehovah’s witnesses covered up child sexual abuse in washington state for decades, lawsuit alleges.
sun., oct. 2, 2022. by wilson criscioneinvestigatewest.
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BluesBrother
Terrible story... The reality is that back in the 70’s child abuse was just not taken seriously, as it is today.. since it always takes place in private it wa often assumed that the kid was making it up.
You would think though that even the dumbest elders, in the absence of an official laid down policy on it, would have alarm bells ringing if multiple claims against the same person were made? Evidently not...
we shall watch with interest.
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Annual Meeting 2022: Geoffrey Jackson: Why Jerusalem mattersem Matters
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/pdtwglldsza.
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BluesBrother
I watched GJ’s talk… it was nothing about spiritual Jerusalem or that sort of thing. He said how the end is sooooo close! He discussed the situation in 1st century Jerusalem, the rebellion in 66ce. I think he wanted to show his research into the period and the various revolts that drove the Romans out.
His point was that JWs need to be decisive and not be “ fooled into. trusting worldly institutions that look impregnable now” , but flee the city as they did in 66ce and were spared when the Romans came back and destroyed it…..
Thats all. I think we all made a bold decision when we quit the WTS . I know that I have never doubted that decision since.
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Tony Morris, Demonic Humanity, Annual Meeting talk
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/vktqyahg0tg.
there seems to be a difference of opinion between geoffrey jackson and tonny morris on how to deal with their feelings towards worldly people.geoffrey jackson made a point to say in his talk that jesus wept for the wicked in jerusalem but following that bloodthirsty tony morris in his talk wants the demon stirred wicked humanity gone..
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BluesBrother
Road To Nowhere.
Thanks for your considered reply.. All the best wishes.
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Tony Morris, Demonic Humanity, Annual Meeting talk
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/vktqyahg0tg.
there seems to be a difference of opinion between geoffrey jackson and tonny morris on how to deal with their feelings towards worldly people.geoffrey jackson made a point to say in his talk that jesus wept for the wicked in jerusalem but following that bloodthirsty tony morris in his talk wants the demon stirred wicked humanity gone..
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BluesBrother
There is a lot of exaggeration about Tony Morris’ whisky. I saw the video the someone shot in a liquor store.. yes he bought a box of whisky, which I found amusing but I never saw a Cadillac……
I was settling into the talk from the AGM on that video, but then the presenter cut in and took over . I wanted to hear the rest of Tony Morris’s talk . What did he say in the bit we did see? That “The World “ is controlled by demons…
Well, we all know that is what dubs believe. We have always known that. They don’t mean the normal people, they mean those doing horrible things.. the school shooters , the politicians who invade other countries etc. Back in the day we all believed it . It is a convenient label to hang on those who do things that just cannot be explained
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which Translation Now?
by enoughisenough infor those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?
why?.
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BluesBrother
It seems that people have their personal favourites. The important thing is accuracy in translation, and who is to say which is the “best” since they are all produced by scholars.
As an ex Witness, brought up on the Original NWT , I still use it a lot. I suppose that would be my ‘go to’ translation. For study of a verse I like to compare translations . I use the Blue Letter Bible site and I have now bookmarked the Bible Hub. Thank you to the poster who gave the link…