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  Jw shot and killed in field service!

  by nowwhat? in

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  another example of jehovah protects his people except when he doesn't.

  https://www.wifr.com/2023/02/12/rockford-police-54-year-old-man-shot-killed-vehicle/.

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  BluesBrother

  That’s nothing to crow about or make light of . The poor man has been murdered. When is America going to bring some sensible gun laws? .?

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  “ Miguel Perez, 54, of Rockford, was found dead in his vehicle on the 1300 block of 7th Avenue.

  Neighbors told police the man and his family are Jehovah’s Witnesses and were reaching out to people in the area at the time.

  Witnesses of the crime told police the man was sitting in his vehicle waiting on family members when a shot was fired from a passing white vehicle.”
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  things shelved, not looked into because of group think

  by enoughisenough in

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  here are some things i never really believed the jw taught...i just didn't really examine it closely.

  i shelved it, so to speak, thinking no one is perfect and they know more than me...if i ever thought about it at all.. i never believed that only jws would be spared at armageddon.

  i never believed the where in james, you went to the elders to confess being spiritually sick-always thought that referred to a real illness.

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  BluesBrother

  Yes, for a long time I used to shelve issues about the faith. I would tell myself that they know better than me so…. It must be ok. I suppose the truth of it was that I was so locked into it socially and with family that I did not dare to rock the boat.

  However, eventually yo get to the point when you do dare to think the unthinkable and really question the beliefs . Then it all falls apart.

  Groupthink is what it is. Well.. they like to call themselves sheep.!
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  No more public WT & Awake?

  by mikeflood in

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  2. beliefs

  have you guys noticed, this year 2023 no more public edition magazines...i wonder how they are gonna spin that fact.

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  BluesBrother

  The demise of the public mags is astounding… back in the day Saturday morning magazine work was a really big deal . Every month there was a special Saturday where we had a big push and the KHall would be full of us all going out.. Everyone did mag work , if nothing else . I can remember offering “two for ten pence” old money, and people paid.

  We had fun in those days , never thought it would come to this..
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  Did Jesus COME with the clouds of heaven in 1914?

  by Fisherman in

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  take for example revelation 21: 10. .

  “….and he showed me the holy city jerusalem coming down out of heaven from god.

  here john sees something happening, action.

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  BluesBrother

  If he came in 1914 , we would not be still living the way we do 109 years later . How much time has to pass before they admit that the 1914 date is wrong?
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  Basic Blood Questions For Witnesses

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  basic blood questions for jehovah's witnesses.

  where does the bible outlaw blood transfusions?

  (acts 15:29 gen.9:4) .

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  BluesBrother

  A while back, there was a regional meeting for all the area HLC members at the hall. On Saturday night the chairman did a meeting for the congregation.

  Most of it was as expected with “experiences” but I will not forget that he drew that chart on the blackboard with allowed fractions below the line. With great gravitas he said “ The Governing Body” have decided that this we may take if you wish”

  So that’s it , the GB decided, not God or Jesus . They are following what Jesus called “commands of men”…
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  Exercise Patience Regional Convention

  by Rattigan350 in

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  the theme of the in person convention this year is "exercise patience".

  looking at the convention map, they are really using their assembly halls and they are using smaller civic centers or city arena.

  no more huge stadiums.. are they not expecting a great crowd?

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  BluesBrother

  The novelty souvenir market is in full swing already by the JW owned businesses after a fast buck…. Talk about turning the house of God into “ a den of robbers “

  
  
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  mentally ill/delusional or con artist?

  by enoughisenough in

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  2. beliefs

  maybe this has been discussed in the past and i wasn't here... what do you think?

  are the gb members knowingly pulling a con, or do they have delusions of grandeur?

  i will go out on a limb here to say that i think they are con artist.

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  BluesBrother

  I can’t speak for the GB but I have known a good many people who wholeheartedly believe what they know as “The Truth” . It doesn’t matter what evidence is pointed out to them because they”lLet God be found true though every man be a liar” . They’ed Say “ Jehovah will clear that up in his time” and carry on. The belief that “The Truth “ is true is stronger than the most basic science fact . They would believe the moon was made of cheese rather than doubt their faith.

  As for those at the top , I recall Ray Franz writing that they had little time to do basic personal study . So take a belief like the 1914 date they believe it because it is accepted and would never go back to open mindedly reconsider it . They have spent so many years in the institution that they cannot think outside the box and I can imagine that in the higher parts of Warwick, the power of “ group-think” is immense.
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  Five members of Jehovah's Witness congregations across Pennsylvania charged with sexual abuse of children

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.fox43.com/article/news/crime/sexual-abuse-of-children-jehovahs-witness-pennsylvania/521-1d54cc2e-3ec6-4d20-b67a-fc3c5e8f2580.

  https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/2023-02-07-presentment-2_7_23.pdf.

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  BluesBrother

  Shocking accounts… I find this strange in the Matos case, the girl was 15:

  ” The elders noted that Matos'sconduct indicated there was a romantic interest, and that they would approve of it fi certain conditions were met. Those conditions required the presence of a chaperone and the commitmentto eventually marry. J.R. described this as "normal" within the community despite the age difference “

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  Either the elders were complete numpties or there is something off with that statement. The Society has disapproved of and warned against teenage dating and courtship for as long as I remember ( even though we still did it on the quiet) . For the elders to sanction this they we’re going against “theocratic instruction “
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  Talked to JWs Today at a Cart Stand

  by Sea Breeze in

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  they were positioned in a walk way and i had to go right pass them.

  i tried to keep walking but my legs went straight to them like they had a mind of their own.. they pointed to john 17:3 on how to get saved.

  1 peter 3:18. .

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  BluesBrother

  “They said that they already answered my question and that I was making them feel uncomfortable.“

  Is that really the best they could say? Dear me , pardon that we should ever make them uncomfortable!

  My Mrs would have jumped at what you said , and kept talking for an hour ….. they don’t know what they are doing these days…
  
  
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  How unpopular is JW org with the American Public ?

  by Phizzy in

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  barb.

  anderson posted this link,on face book, see how far down j.w org is !.

  https://today.yougov.com/topics/society/articles-reports/2022/12/23/americans-views-religious-groups-yougov-poll?fbclid=iwar0-i-ju-nmskoh2yvbnfacipc_vptwmjzrsjn58if3jxicq41vv2ke0lu0.

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  BluesBrother

  So the American public thinks less of JWs than it does of Islam and fundamentalist (polygamous?) Morgan’s . That is saying something after all that has been seen.

  However, the dubs would probably be pleased and say that it was foretold that true Christians would be unpopular and they would probably say that people are still flocking in….. erm, well ? .?