so my mother passed on 20 aug 23 from the big c. i was there when she went.
that was indeed very traumatic.
i won't go to describe it.. dad went 17 years ago so there's just me now.
Sorry to read of your loss, Punk.... I know that when my Mother died I felt very alone, as though the umbilical cord had finally been severed.
So you say that JWs attended the non dub funeral but nobody spoke to any of you? I find that very sad . At funerals we always sought out the relatives to express our condolences, it seemed the right thing to do. At one of my own family, a d/fed daughter of the deceased was accepted and spoken to.... for the day at least.
zoe has nephew in the new bethel and we have been there to visit him.
even had a meal in the new dinning room and had a tour.. it was a bit underwhelming and the display of old bibles open to pages showing jehovah’s name is supposed to prove everything they say is spot on!.
everyone is talking about the upcoming dedication where members of the gb are flying over.
Oh oh….. I hope my team don’t have a football fixture that day , it will be a long day in front of the zoom watching their pride in their accomplishments, even though it is apparently smaller and does less than the old Mill Hill Bethel.
Thanks for the info Teddnzo.
https://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
“The lawsuit was against Watchtower of New York, Watchtower of Pennsylvania and CCJW. As a exjw you know all the corporations are alter ego's of each other.“.......
Then why did the judge dismiss it?
WT lawyers are entitled to use any legal argument in court, they are lawyers and will do what lawyers do. It seems our dismay is at the Judge rather than the WTS . ( not that I support them in any way)
https://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
I may be dumb and I could not take all the video or pages of legal speak, but picked up what Easypromt says above.
Should not Mt Perez’s lawyer have spotted that flaw in their legal suit and made sure they sued the right WT Corporation.?
so, folks, 60 years ago, starting on september 1st, i believe, we, local witnesses in southern california, had the "privilege" of attending the "around the world assembly", at, of all places, the rose bowl, in pasadena.
(i think that it was an 8-day assembly) i was 9 years old then, almost ready to start 4th grade.
so, was anyone else, on this site, at that assembly?
Was it Really 60 years ago? Time flies..
I must have been 15 years old attending Twickenham, London. I do remember the Babylon book coming out . If my memory is correct Fred Frank did the talk and released it. Older bros. Saw it as new light but I did not know the former teaching anyway. Fred lost me after a while, I could not keep up with his speaking....
https://www.westernmassnews.com/2023/09/01/jehovah-witness-elder-sentenced-jail-child-sexual-abuse-case/?outputtype=amp.
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Did he lie about his previous conviction?
Why do they not do criminal record checks for new appointments?
this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.
I could not bring myself to watch the video of the accusation, but that is all that it is….as far as I know. Has there been a police investigation? Have any charges been made against him?
I also know nothing of this woman but reading Vanderhoven’s post above ( a respected member) I suspect that any accusation would never be considered credible.
Therefore I still consider Antony Morris as being what I know about him.. He is a thoroughly dislikable ex GB member but I know no more
“a circuit overseer started out by saying that on this last round of the circuit, the one thing he noticed the most...is that everyone is physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually drained...and that cuts across all barriers and demographics within the truth.
he then said that the one common thread that ran among nearly everyone was this: we feel guilty for feeling bad.
he said because we are told to endure with joy, our minds can cause us to feel enormous guilt over feeling this way...and then, my dear brothers and sisters...he proceeded to blow our collective minds.. he asked us to turn to daniel 8:27….
It is refreshing to hear of a c/o who injected a bit of balance into the teaching. He is right that JWs especially old ones feel stressed and tired and they are sick of being told that they should “always be rejoicing “.... Conscientious ones do feel guilty.
They could do with more c/o’s like that .
i have been thinking about this in relation to the directive given to elders to destroy any incriminating evidence they may have either on their pc`s ,e-mails , private notes in their possession, or notes in their witnessing bags ,etc.
to do with child sexual abuse they may still have in their possession.. isn`t that encouraging the elders to interfere with the justice system ?.
to break the law?.
Whether the WT instructions to Elders would cause them to commit a crime is a moot point.
Theoretically, if they were to be charged with obstructing the law for obedience to the Society, would they still do it? I believe most of them would. They view their appointment from God to be more important and transcends any law of man .
Personally , I would not have done it , unless we were under persecution and ban, that’s different.
When I was a Secretary I found a letter in the permanent file that said that if authorities wanted access to KH property or records we should refuse, and take the consequences. I knew then that if it were a criminal investigation against somebody, I would open the door and show them what they wanted. I would not protect some hypocrite JW from the law.
it's an interesting thought.
if you are an ex jw, presumably dfed, and you see a current jw in good standing engaging in behaviour that would concern their elders, would you pass on that information to interested parties?
do accusations from exes and other outsiders carry any weight?
It depends. If his conduct was wrong but did not really concern me .... then no. Of course not.
If it had hurt someone that I am close to... then yes. If it was a nasty crime then I would report to the law.
