i remember sitting through public talks where the speaker spent the hour discussing in great detail anal sex, masturbation (of yourself and others), sex during menstruation and so on.
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i was a child, looking back now, i realise that they systematically stripped away our childhood innocence, we knew and heard things no 'worldly' child would have heard.. the child abuse and grooming happened to every single one of us, the feelings of guilt and shame was in all of us even if we didn't actually do anything bad, the mental images caused by these filthy men hung around in our innocent minds till there was no room for that innocence.. it has taken me 44 years to realise that what was done to us, even those of us not physically abused, is a crime.. do they still have talks like that nowadays i wonder?
No , they don’t do talks or write WT articles like that anymore. I think you are right that anything dubious these days would be on the net in no time.
I agree that it was all very much “ in your face” and basic . You could not be a JW kid and not know the facts of life… it was too much , too public .
awake 1976 - should a pocket calculator be in your pocket?.
somehow this totally zany 'bible based' article passed me by first time around!.
anyone remember it?.
That article well and truly belongs in the past. It was the sort of thing we giggled at and ignored at the time. Mind you it does make a fair point about the loss of one’s mental arithmetic ability. As a young man I could add up a list of figures in my head quite happily. Now ? …… no chance.
those of us who have deep roots into watchtower remember the shadowy whispers about "the evil slave" when we were kids.. for those that need to get up to speed: .
the internal crisis came to its full with the occurrence of an outstanding bible-predicted event, namely, the coming of jehovah’s “messenger,” christ jesus, to jehovah’s temple for judgment in the spring of 1918, to separate the “faithful and discreet slave” class from the “evil slave” group.
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The “Evil Slave” is an anachronism that belongs in the past. The Watchtower no longer teaches that it is a real thing .. It is a phrase that you will not hear in today’s Organisation.
Also, They changed the wording of the NWT so that the verse no longer reads that we are mentally diseased. That too has hit the dust.
i still read on reddit.
(though no longer post) occasionally, i'll venture over to the ex-seventh day adventist (sda) sub and catch up a bit.
it's been a long time.
JWs reported an average 8.6 million publishers in 2023 which was a small increase on the year before… That is hardly a haemorrhaging of members , despite what we would like to happen
https://www.eurasiareview.com/01072024-russia-further-jail-term-for-answering-fellow-prisoners-questions-about-faith/.
july 1, 2024. by f18news.
by victoria arnold.
The fact that we disagree with these people does not make their treatment by Russia ok.
Anything else that Russia did would be derived as Autocratic evil. The treatment they receive is just plain wrong , and the rest of the Western world can see that
we have lonely old folks and even some not so old.. they know the gb are not who they claim to be.. but they stay in the congregation because they are lonely.
i wonder what percentage of jws this is the case, i would guess a lot.
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Do they really “ know “ it’s not true?
Some , perhaps but the majority of long time dubs get beyond thinking of that . After many decades and social exclusion from the real world, that is no longer an issue… it is a part of them ,they cannot imagine life without it . In a way they don’t care any more because they are so wrapped up in following the ‘slave’ that it the question no longer matters.
There was an old maxim that used to be common.. they said “ it is better to be wrong & inside the Truth than to be “right outside “ it ….
but the entire congregation is not to be informed or mark the person.
the only repercussions are that the individual who is aware of it can decide to "mark" them and not go to the local club or bar with the individual, but they are still obligated to go door to door in the ministry with them, and even speak to them at the kn as if nothing is wrong and not feel obligated to tell anyone else?
this is crazy.. so they are also basically saying that a person can carry on a romantic (but none sexual) relationship with an unbeliever and still go out in service and participate in meetings?
Well, it seems to be a matter of a congregation lottery , as to where you are and how they view it.
My brother in law’s sister , so a sort of relative, lived in the North of England . Backin the day she courted and married a “worldly “ man . He was tolerant of her faith and they lived , had children and by now may be dead. I have lost touch.
She remained in the congregation and enjoyed a good relationship with JW family….
Another sister I knew originally divorced her husband from the world .Eventually she remarried a JW brother but later on he died. She then surprised everyone by remarrying husband No. 1 . I guess she was counselled but remained a sister in good standing.
So it is all a bit of hit or miss, depending on your local B of E.
it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
Thank you Atlantis… you are priceless !
So they are reverting to the way it used to be with marking. It is now a personal thing if you become aware of their unchristian habits… Just imagine saying that , “ We are all meeting up in the park for a picnic , everyone is invited.. Except for you Bro ….. “
Do you think that will motivate him to draw closer to the congregation?
now that the long-expected kingdom had become an established reality in heaven, surely its growing interests in the earth after 1919 would not be left in the hands of a novice organization of spiritual babes.
and that proved to be true.
it was the 1900-year-old “faithful and discreet slave,” the old christian congregation, that was entrusted with this precious kingdom service.
Do the Society teach that the F&DS have been here all 1900 years?
I thought the belief was that the illustration applied solely to the “ time of the end…”
the upcoming governing body update, set to be released on friday this week, will feature a bearded samuel herd.. jwtalk website revealed the leak, so this thread will be used to speculate the content of the update and discuss the actual contents after its release..
I don’t really care about beards but I had to take a look at Uncle Sam’s . Some look good and others don’t - and this one doesn’t in my opinion… Uncle Remus , Father Christened… the similarities abound… oh well. I am sure that is all they will remember from the video never mind what he said.
I know several older , unwell dubs that will not be happy at the exhortation to attend in person… They feel that the ones who cannot are looked down on. I know he briefly said at the end that they could still stream but …….
It is wrong that the JWs are so persecuted in Putin’s Russia ..they should not have to endure that .
