Posts by BluesBrother

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Looking back at the people I knew in the Jobos.....

by punkofnice in

...there are very few if any, that i would have willingly associated with.. my 'worldly(tm)' friends are all brilliant people.

they are nothing like the weirdos i had to put up with in the congregations.. what is your take on the people in the jobos as opposed to your associates now?.

BluesBrother

I have often said that I still have to have some contact with my wife's current congo. It is better to be involved a little. It helps her ,or so I like to think, I provide someone she can moan to when the elders upset her and that policy has kept us happily still married.

So what about them as people? Most of them are on a different planet and don't know I exist. A few closer friends to her are good genuine people. One elder is friendly and at least tries to reach out... The other elders are completely indifferent to us both...

Back in the day when I was involved , I have known 2 or 3 really brilliant elders who could manage well and really cared. They are long gone now.

In short, dubs are just people like the ones you work with . If you're lucky you get on ok . That is all you can hope for

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Merry Xmas / Happy Holidays & a Safe & Prosperous New year to all of you for 2020

by smiddy3 in

i was just looking at some happy holidays / xmas cards some of us sent each other at the close of 2016 of the cards i received only a few of them have your jwn name on them ,the other `s gave me their real names which i cant reveal here.. however this post is for everybody that is on this forum not just to the few i`m referring to.just to clarify .. and i was going to send greetings to you all this year for 2020.. one was from hawaii.

milwaukee.

berlin.

BluesBrother

Seconded ! Merry Christmas to all ....Ho Ho Ho.....

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JW's revelling in their online statistic...

by The Fall Guy in

...that their web site is the most translated in the world.. https://www.tomedes.com/translator-hub/most-translated-website.php.

do jw's genuinely believe that statistics prove divine backing?

you can fool some of the people some of the time...there are lies, damned lies, and statistics!.

BluesBrother

Perhaps this information demonstrates why the text of their writing is so simplistic these days. It has to be easily translatable by an army of non scholarly translators.

Also, the message may be available in 1000 languages but how many people really know what JWs believe.?

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When was it time for you to walk away from your congregation meetings and the WTBTS?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the basic virtue for a human being is to be true to yourself – the integrity of thought, emotion, and action.. .

ten years ago ( after 32 years as a jehovah's witness), i finally decided that my own mental sanity and being true to myself was more important than attending congregation meetings and serving the watchtower society.

i stopped (years before) field service, the ministry school, answering at the watchtower studies, missed numerous meetings and walked in minutes before the meetings started and left after the closing prayer, i knew it was time to leave.

BluesBrother

Like others, The seeds were sown when the "generstion" prophecy was tampered with in the nineties. It seemed clear that were reacting to events rather than proactively telling things in advance. Some later, towards the end of the decade , I dared to think the unthinkable, and ask myself if it really was "The Truth" or just another religion of men.

That was it, scales fell from my eyes of perception and I have never doubted that conclusion. It took a while to back out ,fading gently , but here I am.... apostate, under the radar and happily still married to my dubby wife of many years .

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The Biotic Message, alternative to Evolution

by hooberus in

lecture by walter remine:.

https://youtu.be/o2usdd_8eay.

BluesBrother

Not having time or inclination to settle to a vid. I knew nothing about, I cut and pasted this...

"Walter J. ReMine, author of The Biotic Message, presents "A Scientific Theory of Intelligent Design," based upon eleven years of research into biological science and the potential of a biotic message purposely planted within life itself by an intelligent Creator.3 Nov 2015"

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Royal Commission into Charitable status .

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

australia has in the last few years conducted a royal commission into child sexual abuse in institutions ,the banking industry , and now aged care facilities .. i think its about time they had a royal commission into organizations that claim charitable status and eligibility to receive benefits/funding whatever.. i`m sure that if they ever did wtb&ts/jehovah`s witnesses would never meet the criteria to receive it.. as they do no charitable work in the community.. if they do any charitable work at all it is only to benefit only jehovah`s witnesses who they consider are in good standing in the jw community.. and isn`t that discrimination ?

not only among their own people but also the whole community ?.

or is it just wishful thinking on my part ,and its not going to happen..

BluesBrother

I quite agree Smiddy. A while back the. Charity Commission did look closely at them over the child abuse scandals but seemed satisfied when they issued the latest set of guidelines to elders.

When a Secretary, I recall filling in Charity tax refund forms and the reason for our charitable status was simply that we existed to teach the Gospel of The Bible. That was enough ,it seems.

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Kenneth Richmond - Wrestler and former Circuit Overseer Dies

by eyeslice in

jw
friends

i was only young but i do remember ken and his wife (valentina) being our co. he was a mountain of a man but it would appear from the bbc obituary he was a man of peace.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/lastword.shtml .

olympic wrestler and actor who became the last of the men who struck the symbolic j. arthur rank movie gong has died aged 80. .

BluesBrother

I well remember Ken Richmond. His fame as the banged the gong on screen eclipsed his wrestling prowess.

I worked as an attendant at Twickenham, London, District Convention one year and he was the Overseer of the department, so I had something to do with him . He seemed a decent guy and a good organiser.

I have not met any C.O’s with his prowess and life experience lately..

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Question for Current and Ex Elders

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

have you ever reinstate somebody even if they are not that repentant?.

BluesBrother

What is “not that repentant”?

it is not displays of tears and chest beating, rather the changes they have made in their lives that determine it.

In reality , the committees I was on were quite keen to reinstate after a decent period of time had past, if they had stopped doing the ‘sin’ , attended meetings and said the right things. NB. I only encountered the run of the mill smoking, fornication and adultery cases.

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Have you heard of a Jehovah's Witness on federal SSDI disability Pioneering ? How common is this ?

by BottleGate_ in

asking 4 a friend.

BluesBrother

I don't know the American system, but in the U K , when an elder ,we would not permit a dub to Regular Pioneer if he was on Unemployment Benefit because he had to sign that he was actively looking for work.

In the case of disability benefit they put you through the hoop before they grant the benefit. Personally I cant see how an honest claimant could cope with the physical life of a Pioneer.

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Bradford KH

by Lost in the fog in

at least this former kh in bradford will help house someone with a disability because it is all on the flat.

plans to convert former church in great horton into house are approved | bradford telegraph and argus.

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/18067836.plans-convert-former-church-great-horton-house-approved/.

BluesBrother

"Although in the Great Horton Conservation Area, heritage officers said the 1970s build church made little contribution to the area’s heritage."

You can say that again!